Showing posts with label saudi women. Show all posts
Showing posts with label saudi women. Show all posts

Thursday, November 30, 2006

Luck or curse!!!

Four Saudi Teachers Marry Their Driver
Source: Arab News

BAHA, 29 November 2005 ­— Four Saudi women teaching in a remote village school have married their driver so they can live closer to work, Al-Watan newspaper said yesterday. The women from Al-Baha were impressed with the man’s “good morals” and decided to marry him and live together in the village where they teach — avoiding a tiring daily commute. They were married in a short ceremony, and have agreed to pay the driver a share of their monthly salaries.
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1. He gets four young women..lets wish they are not ugly!!
2. He gets a share out of their salaries. Free money!!

Now the obvious reality, in this mentally retarded genetically molested nation..four women couldn't manage to live by themselves and were forced to marry a man they had no intention of every loving..leave alone blowing his dirty weiner all night long..

Thursday, November 16, 2006

Stupidty has limits

[Orignally Posted January 22 2006]

Religiously insanity and stupidity has limits in the real world. This article is really a well worth writeup itself and doesnt need further commenting




From One Saudi Woman to Another
Mody Al-Khalaf, mody.alkhalaf@gmail.com
Source: ArabNewsWith the constant struggle between conflicting opinions in my country today, I have sadly had to grow used to hearing many statements which discriminate on the basis of sex. What is sad indeed is that all are made in the name of Islam. What I have a hard time comprehending, however, is how statements about female inferiority can be made by women themselves.

In a recent letter asking “for their Islamic rights,” 500 Saudi women wrote a letter to Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah asking him to ignore all that is being written in the papers regarding “Western” rights for women. What the women objected to was the plan to open more jobs to women. They say that since Islam gives men the responsibility of supporting women financially, there is no need for women to work.

Moreover, they claim that the Qur’an orders women to stay at home in order to maintain family harmony. Family life and motherhood, they say, is what best suits a woman’s physical and psychological nature; it is, they said, “our real and natural job and what women have happily lived for since the age of the Prophet (peace be upon him) until today.” For these very reasons, they also ask that our school curriculum be rewritten in a way that is “harmonious with the nature of women, with a special focus on religious subjects, the Arabic language, home economics and motherhood.”

Another point which concerned them is that if women are allowed to work at all the different jobs being suggested — especially those where the working environment is not sexually segregated — then both men and women will be exposed to grave dangers. Hence, all ideas leading to mixing of the sexes should be rejected: “One of the main aims of Shariah is to protect one’s honor by prohibiting any action that leads to irregularity and if such prohibitions are not set, then religion is being assaulted.” This is also why they feel that women should not be allowed to drive since “if women are being sexually harassed in shopping centers, next to schools and in public places, then what will happen if — God forbid — women are allowed to drive?”
The 500 women further demand that all “Westernized” writings and ideas calling for equality between men and women be stopped. At the same time, they ironically ask that the media not be monopolized; what they mean is that religious scholars should be given a chance to reply to those asking for changes that will “shake the structure of our society.” In addition, the women want a separate ministry for women and their problems — though of course, they add that this ministry should be run by competent male religious scholars.

These are just some of the points addressed by the 500 women who emphasize that they reject all claims that the “Westernized minds calling for women’s rights today” represent the needs of Saudi women.

Having a claim to the same nationality, religion and gender, I assume that I have the right to comment on the above without being accused of being a Westernized mind speaking on behalf of a group I do not represent. As a Saudi woman, and one of many who are similarly-minded, I too ask for my Islamic rights.

I ask for my Islamic right to equality. God, in the Qur’an addresses me as a complete human being, created in the same way as man: “Mankind, reverence your guardian lord who created you from a single person, created of like nature, his mate” (Al Nisa, 1); ordered to comply by Islamic law in the same manner and promised the same reward or punishment for my actions: “Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be he male or female, ye are members, one of another” (Al Imran, 195). How dare any human perceive me as inferior or limit my capabilities in an any way?

I ask for my Islamic right for equality in education. The Prophet (peace be upon him) ordered all Muslims to seek knowledge. He did not limit certain fields to one sex or the other. Why should I be limited to religious and domestic subjects when Aisha was a scholar in fields as diverse as religion, poetry and medicine? Moreover, she taught and issued fatwas to both men and women.
I ask for wider vocational opportunities. Unlike what the letter alleges, women even during the Prophet’s age worked in jobs that we no longer work in today. Wasn’t Khadijah, his first wife, a businesswoman, buying, selling, and negotiating with men and women? His other wife, Zainab, worked making handicrafts and sold them. The Prophet’s aunt, Umm Munthur, sold dates in Okaz market. She was a Muslim then and the market was not segregated. Malika Umm Al-Saib was known as a seller of perfume to the Prophet himself. Atika bint Khaled had a tent near the Kaaba where she sold food and drinks to both men and women, just as restaurants do today. Women fought and nursed in wars alongside the Prophet. Women farmed and herded. If the list is limited in any way, it is because of the types of occupations available then — not because of Islamic restrictions. All jobs available to men then were also available to women.

Thus, no job should be denied to women in the name of Islam. Islam forbids an unrelated man and woman from being alone — yes; it does not, however, forbid men and women from mixing. If segregation were the norm, why were we not requested to be segregated in the Holy Mosque?

And to the 500 women, I say this: When you go to hospitals, don’t you ask to see women nurses, dentists and doctors? Who would you ask to see if those nurses, dentists and doctors embraced your interpretation of Islam and restricted themselves to certain fields or stayed at home?
Thus, I ask for my Islamic right to work in marketing, sales, catering, medicine, law, politics, engineering, fashion, the military or any other occupation which I might choose.

I ask that my Islamic rights to financial support, marriage, divorce, alimony, and child custody be translated from verbal theories into practical implications seen in our daily lives. I wonder if the 500 women have noticed that our system has absolutely no power to implement the Islamic rights we should have, including the right to financial support mentioned in their letter. And what if a man does not agree to support me, then what? Am I supposed to sit at home and wait for charity?

I ask for my Islamic rights to travel with any “mahram” and not just my legal guardian. I ask for my Islamic right to eat at a restaurant without a male chaperone. I ask for my Islamic right to drive and not be forced to ride alone with a non-mahram. I ask for my Islamic right to get medical treatment without male consent. I ask for my Islamic right to rent a house without male consent. I ask for my Islamic right to get an education and job without male consent.
And finally, as a Muslim, I ask for my right to choose. In any argument, a Muslim has the right to choose the interpretations he or she wants instead of being forced to go along with other people’s choices. Since I am speaking about women’s rights in particular, where are my rights to choose the interpretations I want regarding my hijab, for example? Whether to cover my face or not is open to several interpretations; and there is certainly no Islamic law that says I must wear black. Aisha said that when given two choices, the Prophet always chose the easier of the two so long as it was not sinful. Why am I being deprived of one of my greatest Islamic rights: To follow in the footsteps of the Prophet?

Freedom of choice is a right the 500 women have too. If they want to stay at home, limit themselves to certain fields of study, refuse to drive, or move only in segregated places then they are at liberty to do so. What they have no right to do, however, is to impose their views on all Muslim women. Nor do they have the right to speak on our behalf to the king.

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(Mody Al-Khalaf is a Saudi writer. She is based in Riyadh.)

Run away girls in Saudi


[Orignally Posted December 16 2005]

Talk about a "perfect" "equal rights" "islamic" "women respecting" society...Bullshit..

such things are common occurance in Saudi Arabia. A typical Saudi male mind is nothing but full with prejudice and hatred towards women classifying them as "evil creation" and object or sexual satisfaction only. Lets recall the famous Hadith's "women are created for men pleasure".


NUMBER OF RUNAWAY GIRLS INCREASES

Source: Saudi Gazette
Comments in BLUE text
By Sabria S. Jawhar
The Saudi Gazette
JEDDAH/MADINA

SITTING in a far corner with her back to one of the Prophet Mosque s pillar praying and reading the Qur an, the young woman was covering almost half of her face with her headscarf and holding the holy book close to her face in an attempt to hide it from people around her.
As a habit in the Prophet s Mosque, people in Madinah offer coffee and dates to those who are sitting around them between prayer times. A stranger walked up to her offered her a cup of coffee.

The young woman stretched her hand with a smile that showed a perfect set of teeth and looked with her wide dark brown eyes.

Thank you, I cannot drink coffee. I have a stomach ache, she said with a tearful smile. At that moment she told her story to a stranger about her tears and the injury to her right cheek.
Seham is 25 and by any standard extremely beautiful. Unlike other women her age, her beauty has never been a grace. On the contrary, it has been a curse, she said.

Some times when I look at the mirror I feel that I want to burn my face just to live a normal life like the rest of the girls at my age, she said.

Wherever Seham goes, she hears the praise and the looks of admiration that follow her even among the women. Her father s recognition of her beauty has made him put more pressure on her than on her sisters.

He chases me whereever I go and suspects each phone call that I receive, she said, Even my younger brothers have been turned into spies on me.
Her father used to call her the daughter of devil because each time she goes out with him for shopping he has an argument with the men who try to tease her or even follow her with their eyes.

To rid himself of this burden, her father got her married when she was only 17 years old. The husband was not much better than the father as he called her names and accused her of tempting his brother. After five years of torture she asked for divorce and went back to her family s home.

This time, according to my father s point of view, I am only a divorced beautiful young woman who can commit any sin without anyone knowing. Simply I am not a virgin anymore, she said.
The treatment got worse with her father beating her on the face. One day, the phone rang and a man whom she does not know asked for her by name. The father woke her up in the middle of the night beating with a stick.

I did not know why until later. So I waited till they all fell asleep and I ran to my friend s house for two weeks, she said.

The family reported her missing to the police that eventually found her and held her in custody until the father came to take her.

I could see the rage in his eyes despite the police officer s attempts to calm him down, she said.
Runaway girls have become a phenomenon in Saudi society that specialists are taking a keen interest in. Last year a study by the Ministry of Interior had shown that there are 3,285 reported cases of running away or absence in Saudi Arabia. Among those cases, 850 young girls and women were reported as runaways.

The continuing problem is accompanied with child abuse and has pushed the Saudi government to tackle these issues publicly. The government also has begun issuing related decrees like a social protection shelter for runaway girls or those who are subject to physical or sexual abuse.

Wafaa Sa di, head of the Social Protection Department at the Ministry of Social Affair and the director of the Social Protection Shelter in Jeddah, attributes the runaways to being exposed to the outside world through satellite channels.
Yeah right blame everything on the internet and satellite TV channels. You are good in running a "Ministry for Bullshiting". Humans do not need Internet or satellite TV to teach them right to respect and freedom.

Those satellite channels have entered the Saudi houses and taught the girls not to tolerate anything from their parents, Sa di said. It taught them that there are human rights associations and that they should not stand whatever their parents do to them.
As i said, presence of satllite channels does not matter when it comes to human right. But the point your are trying to make here is more like "due to advancement of satellite channels and internet, we are losing control over abusing our women and they are standing against it". When there is abuse, there is a rebellion.

The director of the shelter said she believes that beating sometimes is a good way to educate and discipline children who should tolerate their parents temper.
Yeah talk about abusive parents bitch, i think your husband should beat you in submisson so you will give him a blow job.

She said domestic violence is not the main reason behind the increasing percentage of runaway girls. On the contrary, she said, imitating the West is the cause of those family problems that lead girls to run away. Children, she explained, learn new values that contradict those of their society then try to implement them, which leads to confrontation.
Bullshiting is a typical Saudi trait, to blame everything on west. Get the point bitch, beating your women and kids is not accecptable. Its abusive. I wonder what kind of qualification you have.

Parents are always noble, she said, Even when they beat, they do that for education.
Ohh how great, a father acusses the girl to be prostittute and call her daughter of devil and you this its cool. How does that father is being eduative by such actions.

Sharaf Al-Ghirafi, head of the Women and Child Protection Committee at the Ministry of Social Affairs, said the issue hasn t reached a crisis stage yet.
Yeah we see Rania Al-Baz hopping from one airport to another making statements on Tv's and earning her cheap fame. Yet the situation is still not a crisis.

It is still individual cases, she said. We are an Islamic conservative society that will never mistreat children to the extent that make them leave the house or run away.
One word, BULLSHIT

However, she said, those few cases usually occur among teenagers and due to either family problems or peer pressure. Some girls, she said, do not actually run away from their houses, they just go to a coffee shop with their friends after school but without their family s permission, forcing parents report them absent.
What a nonsense, does staying away for few hours count as missing. Thats was a very poor attempt to coverup miss. Dont they have mobile phones to report to parents. And how much time does a human spends in coffe shop, 1 hour, 2 hours, 3, 4, 6???? is that the parents threshold to report their kids missing. Well most parents with such low threshold simply belive their daughters a prostitues.

But sometimes, she said, girls and young women run away when they are a subject to domestic violence or psychological abuse. Her administration, she said, usually works in cooperation with the police, the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice and the Ministries of Health and Education to deal with those cases. When a girl is arrested, they call the family and investigate the reasons behind her running away.
If you were really doing this job, then you wouldnt be making such nonsense ignorant comments above. What a self contradiction.

We work hard to calm down both sides to bring them together, Ghirafi said. The aim is to increase their level of awareness about the possible results of such a behavior on both social and individual level.

Abeer, (not her real name), is now 22 years old. She recalled when she ran away from her family because of her addicted father's sexual harassment.

One night I was woken up by a hand that closed my mouth and another one trying to find its way to take my clothes off, Abeer said. I called my father but he did not reply. Actually, he was the one trying to take the most precious thing in my life. Since then my younger sister and I could not sleep at night thinking that he might attack any of us anytime.
But your social experts belive that your father might be doing this for educational reason. What was he trying to teach?? Anyone's imagination at work??

Abeer told her divorced mother but she could not help because she was married to another man who does not allow her to have any contact with her children. The father s attempts to rape his daughters went on and on with no help. One day, she said, she saw him trying to drag her younger sister telling her that he will buy her a doll if she let him do whatever he wants.
Well when you have a society of extreme segration and women coverd like jewels, then you will have such deprived men willing to do anything and anyone. By the way, didn't the Mutaw'a Ministry issued a verdict saying doll is haram??

I got scared and I pulled and hid my sister behind me to receive tons of slaps on my face, Abeer said. When he got tired he went to bed and slept.
Atleast it was an appreciative steps when your own social experts and authorities wont come to help or even admit the exsistence of problems. But then they will argue that the father was trying to teach something to his daughters so its human breed in two different directions.

Abeer left the house at night walking a long distance to the police station. Officers took her to an orphanage where she was kept with her sister.
But no arrest of for the offender!!! where is your islamic justice???

The shelter was a suitable place for a while, she said, but after several months it turned into a prison where they have to follow rules that were difficult.

We had to wear and eat whatever they brought us, she said, I was not allowed to visit or see my friend at school.

Abeer left the orphanage to live at her uncle s house. She got married and took her sister with her but she still carries those memories.

Those bad memories will never leave my mind, she said. I did not know where to go: to an addicted father or to a big prison. There was not a middle road for a solution.

Ghirafi said there is no protection shelter in Madinah. When they shift girls from the home, which is rare, they send them to orphanages or charity organizations.

Those orphanages are established based on a family-like system where they can find a warm atmosphere similar to that of the family, she said.

But generally speaking there is nothing like a family, she said.

Hanan Mugbool, a social worker at the Psychological Health Hospital in Jeddah, agreed that those cases are only individual ones despite the lack of accurate statistics. Girls who run away are either drug addicts or psychologically unstable girls, she added.Very good interpretion and a coward attempt again to deny the problem of family abuse.

The cases are transferred to us either from the police or the orphanages, she said.
The Psychological Health Hospital is not prepared for receiving such cases as permanent residents.

She classified running away girls under two categories: A complete runaway is when a girl flees with her lover in order to get married due to the family rejection, which is rare. The second type is partial fleeing when a girl runs away for a month or so due to domestic violence or increasing pressure. She said most of the Saudi cases fall under the second category because of the lack of permanent shelters like those in the West.
Then where do the cases of above mention girls fit in. None of them flee homes to get married or on temporary basis

In the Western countries, a girl can leave the house and lead an independent life after 18, she said. But in our conservative society they cannot.
Better called, retarded slaveminded society

To avoid the dramatic increase in those cases that would affect the fabric of the society structure, Mugbool called for more strict legal procedures to protect girls from physical or emotional abuse from their male relatives.
Yeah right, all talk and no actions. Just give women their rights and freedom and cut the root of the problem away.

The family has to be more open to the natural social change and accept the fact that their children belong to a different generation from theirs, she said, This does not mean leaving them without supervision. They have to be indirectly supervised and taught right and wrong, she said.
When your nation is compromised of such retard minded sick people, no wonder your future generations are also goin to be waste of human flesh on earth

R u a woman?? Never wait in long queues!!

[Orignally Posted September 10 2005]

Saudi Women Enjoy Special Treatment in Men’s Sections
Ebtihal Mubarak, Arab News

JEDDAH, 10 September 2005 — “No, don’t go to the bank that has the women’s section; drive to the other branch that only has a men’s section,” Sarah told her driver.
Her behavior is not unusual. For an increasing number of Saudi women, it’s actually preferred. They claim that they get better services at men’s sections at banks, restaurants and airports to name a few. No matter how crowded a place or how long the queue, women often are served first.
“They treat me like a princess at the bank’s men’s section,” Sarah said.
She told Arab News that as she sets foot in the bank, everyone offers help. The security guard asks what kind of service she wants and then personally guide her to the employee in charge. That employee will then motion to her to step up and ignore the queue. He will politely finish her request in a matter of seconds. She said that wouldn’t be the case in the women’s sections.
“Although women’s sections aren’t as crowded as the men’s, I usually spend more time there,” she said. “They’re very bureaucratic and obsessed with paperwork.”
Saudi men, on the other hand, find such attitudes unfair and obvious discrimination. They contend that as women demand equality, they should be treated as equal as the men in all matters. “They shouldn’t be given such privileges,” said an angry fast-food customer.
He said he could be driving in the heat for an hour and wait in the restaurant queue for about 20 minutes to buy his lunch while a woman sitting in the back seat of her car can just step in the restaurant and buy whatever she wants in a matter of seconds.
“If that isn’t discrimination, I don’t know what is,” he said.
Women who enjoy the special treatment don’t think of it as a privilege.
“It’s just an attitude that some men practice out of courtesy all over the world,” one woman said.
Most women asked by Arab News said if they were offered such help they would certainly accept it. “Most of the time we don’t demand to be served first,” one said. “If we have the chance why not?”

Courtesy: Arab News


Now only if this country was not segrated, women wouldnt be enjoying this kind of previllage. The good thing is.. that i can always send a women to bank to pay my bill and guranteed she will be done in a matter of second opposed to me myself goin there and waiting hour or two in queue.