So today afternoon a Labour Ministry walked into our office on random inspection to check legal related paperwork and busted us for hiring three workers with improper paper work. None the less we were threaten to face fines and a probationary period to get their paper work in order. In response, we called our CEO who showed up after a short internet. A quick "meet the CEO" session behind closed doors settled the matter at 500SR.
So moral of the story:
Government penalty for hiring three employees without sponsorship transfer: SR 30,000/- (10K Ea)
Settling matters off the records with inspector: SR 500/-
You decide whats priceless!
A funny thing, the inspectory was religiously pious and puntual with prayer. However stuffing pockets with bribery right after offering Zuhur prayers doesnt count in his book neither do dishonesty at job does!!
Ohh and for those patriotic people dont stir lame theories of some fake offical conning us. He was offical by all manner on an offically endorsed hunt and and thats dead sure.
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Wednesday, February 27, 2008
Labour Minister Stomach Bloats at JEF
Don’t Forget Your Heritage, Al-Gosaibi Urges Saudis
Siraj Wahab,
Siraj Wahab,
Source: Arab News
(comments in blue)
Labor Minister Ghazi Al-Gosaibi makes a point at the 9th Jeddah Economic Forum that concluded on Tuesday. (AN photo by Khidr Al-Zahrani)
JEDDAH, 27 February 2008 — Labor Minister Ghazi Al-Gosaibi yesterday made an impassioned plea to the private sector to create more opportunities and provide greater incentives for young Saudis.
Speaking on the last day of the highly successful Jeddah Economic Forum, Al-Gosaibi said most young Saudis were talented and hard working. “The image that is projected by the media is wrong,” he said. “It focuses on a few bad examples. That is not the case with the large majority of our youngsters.”
Al-Gosaibi lam basted Saudi businessmen who criticize the Saudi work force. “Those who say that Saudi youth are not dependable, that they are not accountable, that they shun work, that they are not hard working, I ask them: ‘Where are they themselves from — Sweden or Norway? Did they not come from this same country? Is it not true that their fathers, mothers and sisters built this great Kingdom?’ If Saudis are not hard working, who built all these business empires — these big businesses that we see around us today?”
Labor Minister Ghazi Al-Gosaibi makes a point at the 9th Jeddah Economic Forum that concluded on Tuesday. (AN photo by Khidr Al-Zahrani)
JEDDAH, 27 February 2008 — Labor Minister Ghazi Al-Gosaibi yesterday made an impassioned plea to the private sector to create more opportunities and provide greater incentives for young Saudis.
Speaking on the last day of the highly successful Jeddah Economic Forum, Al-Gosaibi said most young Saudis were talented and hard working. “The image that is projected by the media is wrong,” he said. “It focuses on a few bad examples. That is not the case with the large majority of our youngsters.”
Al-Gosaibi lam basted Saudi businessmen who criticize the Saudi work force. “Those who say that Saudi youth are not dependable, that they are not accountable, that they shun work, that they are not hard working, I ask them: ‘Where are they themselves from — Sweden or Norway? Did they not come from this same country? Is it not true that their fathers, mothers and sisters built this great Kingdom?’ If Saudis are not hard working, who built all these business empires — these big businesses that we see around us today?”
No they are not coming from abroad but they have spent considerable time abroad, may be were raised there too and learned the values of hardworking rather than a generation which lived in limbo leeching oil money from government reserves. And then most of them went around the world on government expenses to propogate wahabbism on behalf of Al-Sauds and fund religious terrorism
Al-Gosaibi specifically mentioned self-made Saudi financier Abdul Aziz Al-Rajhi. “He rose from being an ordinary man in a local market to a big businessman. Is he not a Saudi? Is he not one of us? There are lot Al-Rajhis out there looking for opportunities to grow,” he said. He went on to point out the recent case of a young Saudi who took a loan from Muhammad Jameel of ALJ Co. Ltd. and then parlayed it into a SR450 million contract.
Al-Gosaibi said the success of the economy rested with the private sector’s ability to motivate young Saudis — many who grew up in an era of luxury — to work.
Al-Gosaibi specifically mentioned self-made Saudi financier Abdul Aziz Al-Rajhi. “He rose from being an ordinary man in a local market to a big businessman. Is he not a Saudi? Is he not one of us? There are lot Al-Rajhis out there looking for opportunities to grow,” he said. He went on to point out the recent case of a young Saudi who took a loan from Muhammad Jameel of ALJ Co. Ltd. and then parlayed it into a SR450 million contract.
Al-Gosaibi said the success of the economy rested with the private sector’s ability to motivate young Saudis — many who grew up in an era of luxury — to work.
Or an era of limbo where government siphoned free cash, facilities and idiotic religious-only education circular into citizens in fear that a knowledgeable and developed workforce could mount anti-Saudi rebellion in future. Only until shit hits the walls and oil revenues aren't proving enough.
“The private sector should facilitate their integration into the job market,” he said. “The kind of conditions now imposed on them makes things difficult for them at the workplace. In the past, Saudis worked only in the public sector. They would work four hours a day, five days a week, and God only knows if they worked at all. Now, you are asking them to work in the private sector. They are being told to work for 48 hours instead of 35 a week; they have to work not one shift, but two shifts. They are told that if they take leave other than the two-week annual leave, they will be fired... Nobody will accept these conditions.”
“The private sector should facilitate their integration into the job market,” he said. “The kind of conditions now imposed on them makes things difficult for them at the workplace. In the past, Saudis worked only in the public sector. They would work four hours a day, five days a week, and God only knows if they worked at all. Now, you are asking them to work in the private sector. They are being told to work for 48 hours instead of 35 a week; they have to work not one shift, but two shifts. They are told that if they take leave other than the two-week annual leave, they will be fired... Nobody will accept these conditions.”
Now what you clearly doing here is trying to broker private sector for laxed working conditions for Saudis. While hard work is appreciated there is no point brokering leniency for lazy asses. Lazy people are lazy people at the end of the day and if they cant work for eight hours a day then no business is going to keep them.
The labor minister emphasized there was no magic solution to the current problem. “If the private sector does not provide enough incentives to our youth then we will not succeed,” Al-Gosaibi said. “We have to close the gap between what the public sector provides and what the private sector provides in terms of job security, salaries, number of work hours, etc. If the private sector provides the same kind of incentives as the public sector, will our youth run away? No.”
The labor minister emphasized there was no magic solution to the current problem. “If the private sector does not provide enough incentives to our youth then we will not succeed,” Al-Gosaibi said. “We have to close the gap between what the public sector provides and what the private sector provides in terms of job security, salaries, number of work hours, etc. If the private sector provides the same kind of incentives as the public sector, will our youth run away? No.”
There is a difference between incentives and catering to the lazy asses. If your understanding of "incentives" means letting Saudis spend 4 hours in office browsing Internet and skipping rest of the four then sorry to say its not acceptable to businesses.
Al-Gosaibi hailed Saudi Aramco and SABIC for their Saudization successes. “They stay there and grow there because they get the kind of incentives that are not available anywhere else,” the labor minister said of the young Saudis working in both companies. “Please don’t be critical of our youth. Don’t mistrust them. They want to lead a decent and honorable life. And when I am talking about youth, I mean both men and women.”
Al-Gosaibi hailed Saudi Aramco and SABIC for their Saudization successes. “They stay there and grow there because they get the kind of incentives that are not available anywhere else,” the labor minister said of the young Saudis working in both companies. “Please don’t be critical of our youth. Don’t mistrust them. They want to lead a decent and honorable life. And when I am talking about youth, I mean both men and women.”
Ofcourse there is qualified Saudi workforce but very few business who can afford to pay in gold biscuits can afford to hire them.
‘Look at the Silver Lining’
Its seems corroded already!
‘Look at the Silver Lining’
Its seems corroded already!
The media is simply focusing on reality and the fact is that ratio between success and failure is 1:10 so obviously majority dominates.
The minister said Saudis should remember their history as global leaders — and their faith. “First of all, we should believe in God Almighty and then we should have full trust and confidence in ourselves, in our nation, in our youth and in our daughters,” Al-Gosaibi said. “This is the region of the Two Holy Mosques. It is from here that thousands spread out to extend the message of Islam. We are their offspring; we are their children. Never forget our heritage. We are not a marginal civilization coming from the jungles of Amazon. We are a nation that has for more than 800 years led the world in everything — in intellect, in science and in technology. We have been through difficult times. There have been ups and downs but, by the grace of God, we have the capacity; we have the hope and the aspiration to return to our past glory — and we will.”
The minister said Saudis should remember their history as global leaders — and their faith. “First of all, we should believe in God Almighty and then we should have full trust and confidence in ourselves, in our nation, in our youth and in our daughters,” Al-Gosaibi said. “This is the region of the Two Holy Mosques. It is from here that thousands spread out to extend the message of Islam. We are their offspring; we are their children. Never forget our heritage. We are not a marginal civilization coming from the jungles of Amazon. We are a nation that has for more than 800 years led the world in everything — in intellect, in science and in technology. We have been through difficult times. There have been ups and downs but, by the grace of God, we have the capacity; we have the hope and the aspiration to return to our past glory — and we will.”
So what is Saudi history really??? Lets see..slave trading, tribal warfare, religious idiocy, oppression, exploitation of other humans, slavery, robbery, looting, gang rapes and more recently sponsoring religious terrorism. Referring to others as "marginal civilization coming from jungles of Amazon" is true representation of typical "I am better than everyone" mentality found among the Saudis whether be elite or beggar. Now let me educate you Mr.Minister, there is a difference between Islamic civilization dominating the world for 800 years and Saudis as a nation. Islamic civilization has been for 1400 years ago where as Saudis came into being less than 100 years ago so I don't understand this "leading the world for 800 years" neither does anyone capable to do simple maths and Google search. The only "marginal civilization from nomad desserts" on this earth is you the Saudis who are only worth for the oil they can provide.
More Opportunities for Women
Al-Gosaibi said more opportunities are being created for women in the labor market, but successful social reforms will require dialogue and consensus.
“Slowly but surely, we are making progress,” he said. “In the past, the public sector absorbed 90 percent of the women, especially as school teachers and 10 percent as social advisers. When the public sector filled up... that is when the demand for opening the private sector to women came up. We are implementing these women-specific projects in stages, and we are achieving success. The issue of segregation will not change overnight. In fact, if we try to change things forcefully, then that may complicate matters. It is my wish that we work together and work within the system.”
More Opportunities for Women
Al-Gosaibi said more opportunities are being created for women in the labor market, but successful social reforms will require dialogue and consensus.
“Slowly but surely, we are making progress,” he said. “In the past, the public sector absorbed 90 percent of the women, especially as school teachers and 10 percent as social advisers. When the public sector filled up... that is when the demand for opening the private sector to women came up. We are implementing these women-specific projects in stages, and we are achieving success. The issue of segregation will not change overnight. In fact, if we try to change things forcefully, then that may complicate matters. It is my wish that we work together and work within the system.”
Excuse me but the "Al-Saud & Mutaween" alliance always formulated policies of keep women at home as baby producing machines. The offical rules and regulation of Saudi Arabia strictly bar women from working. So your statement stands to nothing but mindless propaganda.
Al-Gosaibi said there needed to be clear communication between the ministries and the private sector for Saudization to succeed. “The basic duty of ministers is to engage in dialogue with all members of society, but on many occasions this dialogue was between deaf people. We didn’t listen to each other. We, in the ministry, were talking about Saudization, and the other party would say ‘visas, visas.’ We didn’t listen to each other. That was not dialogue. Now when companies talk about Saudization, I tell them to talk about their plans and then we shall listen to their request for visas.”
Al-Gosaibi said there needed to be clear communication between the ministries and the private sector for Saudization to succeed. “The basic duty of ministers is to engage in dialogue with all members of society, but on many occasions this dialogue was between deaf people. We didn’t listen to each other. We, in the ministry, were talking about Saudization, and the other party would say ‘visas, visas.’ We didn’t listen to each other. That was not dialogue. Now when companies talk about Saudization, I tell them to talk about their plans and then we shall listen to their request for visas.”
Well they chant visas because that is what works for them. Saudization is just an added tax with comes with it. The business want to get start fast with the right workforce as well retain the workforce on low wages which through your "Kefala" system is very well augmented. If there was freedom of employment to foreigner, these employers will not be able to lock-down employees hence forced to pay worthy wages as per market rate which will automatically attract the citizens to take up jobs.
Later, when fielding questions from the audience, a hearing-impaired man asked why special needs workers had it so rough, noting that employers were often unwilling to accommodate them, Al-Gosaibi announced from the podium that henceforth, employing one special-needs Saudi worker would count as four workers in Saudization targets. (Earlier, employing one special-needs worker would count as two.)
Later, when fielding questions from the audience, a hearing-impaired man asked why special needs workers had it so rough, noting that employers were often unwilling to accommodate them, Al-Gosaibi announced from the podium that henceforth, employing one special-needs Saudi worker would count as four workers in Saudization targets. (Earlier, employing one special-needs worker would count as two.)
This is further relaxation in Saudization quota speaks for itself. No explanation needed!
Citing 2007 employment figures, he said, “We brought 1.8 million expatriates into the country. This is the highest number in decades. Since I took over, there has been no increase in Saudization. Actually, we have reduced Saudization in most sectors.”
Citing 2007 employment figures, he said, “We brought 1.8 million expatriates into the country. This is the highest number in decades. Since I took over, there has been no increase in Saudization. Actually, we have reduced Saudization in most sectors.”
So despite your efforts you admit your failure as the biggest influx of foreign workers has landed in the country during year 2007 breaking all records. You see common sense states that something is wrong here despite all your pleas. Because Saudis don't wanna work hard and private sector doesn't want to cut working hours to 4 a day. So the situation becomes locked and for the sake of economy, your ministry cant help it further than decreasing saudization quota and issuing more visas.
All Saudi businesses should consider the government’s expectations, he added. “My doors are open to businessmen. Come to me with your plans. I am only asking for 10 percent commission,” Al-Gosaibi said. “You want 500 visas for expatriates then 50 should be Saudis. One thousand visas - 100 Saudis, and that is all.”
All Saudi businesses should consider the government’s expectations, he added. “My doors are open to businessmen. Come to me with your plans. I am only asking for 10 percent commission,” Al-Gosaibi said. “You want 500 visas for expatriates then 50 should be Saudis. One thousand visas - 100 Saudis, and that is all.”
Yeah and the government expect a bunch of lazy asses employed over hardworking people is a sales commission like scheme where they leech on company profit as a "privilege" of their nationality not skills.
Saturday, December 8, 2007
Women vs. Women
Women vs. Women
Amal Zahid • Al-Watan
Source: ArabNews
Some feminine voices are doing a great job in defaming women’s issues in the country. They have mastered the art of provoking people’s feelings against anyone who writes about the inferior social status of women, or the injustice practiced against them in society.
I’m sick and tired of hearing that Saudi women are in fine shape. These people claim that no one is doing them injustice or underestimating their capabilities.
Everything is just perfect, according to them, and everything that is being said is based on rumors. They believe that the issue of liberating women is just a conspiracy to break male dominance and corrupt women, which will eventually lead to the corruption of entire society.
The truth is that these voices use the West as a reference when comparing, reviewing and evaluating. They support their visions with very bizarre research and publications that highlight the failure of women’s movements in spreading peace and building families. These publications also talk about social diseases that accompanied women’s desires to leave home and work after the Industrial Revolution in Europe. These voices panic when the difference between liberating women in the East and West is being addressed. To them, it all boils down to the fact that Islam has given women all their rights.
Anyone who dares to write about the women’s issues is accused of being westernized and secular regardless of what angles are being tackled. Beware of using words such as “empowerment” or “struggle” when writing about issues of women’s liberation. What is sad is that these voices find people who cheer and applaud what they say. It is time to let women stand against women and fight each other.
Amal Zahid • Al-Watan
Source: ArabNews
Some feminine voices are doing a great job in defaming women’s issues in the country. They have mastered the art of provoking people’s feelings against anyone who writes about the inferior social status of women, or the injustice practiced against them in society.
I’m sick and tired of hearing that Saudi women are in fine shape. These people claim that no one is doing them injustice or underestimating their capabilities.
Everything is just perfect, according to them, and everything that is being said is based on rumors. They believe that the issue of liberating women is just a conspiracy to break male dominance and corrupt women, which will eventually lead to the corruption of entire society.
The truth is that these voices use the West as a reference when comparing, reviewing and evaluating. They support their visions with very bizarre research and publications that highlight the failure of women’s movements in spreading peace and building families. These publications also talk about social diseases that accompanied women’s desires to leave home and work after the Industrial Revolution in Europe. These voices panic when the difference between liberating women in the East and West is being addressed. To them, it all boils down to the fact that Islam has given women all their rights.
Anyone who dares to write about the women’s issues is accused of being westernized and secular regardless of what angles are being tackled. Beware of using words such as “empowerment” or “struggle” when writing about issues of women’s liberation. What is sad is that these voices find people who cheer and applaud what they say. It is time to let women stand against women and fight each other.
Sunday, September 23, 2007
Happy Birthday Saudi Arabia
Today, 23-Sep-2007 is the 75th national day of Saudi Arabia. The day Kingdom was established way back in year 1932. Despite all the problem, issues and mismanagement in this country we all live here, so do hundreds of other regardless of race, religion, origin and cast. A country which is second-home to them where many live much better than they would in their home countries. This is truly, a mini united nations where tolerance on all fronts exists between all kind of people. Hundreds of poor's come here to make their fortune and support their families back home. A literal tax-free haven where the rich and poor get their basic needs fulfilled regardless of economic gap. Topped off by some of the best desserts, beaches and natural beauty.
So lets raise the flag high on this day and put aside the differences.
I wish I could top it off with classic "Biladi Biladi" song popularized during gulf war but don't have its sound clip so enjoy the Anthem below.
So lets raise the flag high on this day and put aside the differences.
I wish I could top it off with classic "Biladi Biladi" song popularized during gulf war but don't have its sound clip so enjoy the Anthem below.
Sunday, December 17, 2006
Fatwa for Annual Muslims Stampede (Hajj)
Annual Islamic Stampede Competition (Hajj) is just day away now. And as usual there are bazillions of fatwa's about it coming from the concerned fatwa mills in regards to what is permissible and what is not. However, no one seems to issue a fatwa on the most important all time activity of this even which is the stampede of a few tens to hundreds each year as people compete to stone the devil with the best of their anger and high hormones.
Therefore, Sheikh Bozo has taken this important duty for the wellness of Islamic Ummah and right guidance. Amen..
The fatwa about the stampede competition is derived from the football fatwa published in ArabNews in August 2005.
Fatwa as follows:
Therefore, Sheikh Bozo has taken this important duty for the wellness of Islamic Ummah and right guidance. Amen..
The fatwa about the stampede competition is derived from the football fatwa published in ArabNews in August 2005.
Fatwa as follows:
- One may take part in Hajj for the sole purpose of seeking forgiveness from Allah and preparing his physical self for the great jihad.
- It is permissible to break laws and visa regulations by overstaying as long as the stay is intended within the guidelines of seeking greater exposure to Allah mercy and preparation for jihad. Visas, Passports and immigrations controls are the creation of kuffars (infidels) therefore Muslims should not feel obliged to them in matters of religion.
- When moving with crowd, one may not resemble the infidels by showing signs of manners, organization , humbleness and rule abiding. The sole purpose is to gather as much forgiveness and rewards from Allah in the shortest time possible therefore one must hurry up to the top of his capability without caring for anything else. Organization and queings are the most dangerous time-wasting teachings of kuffar.
- When the stampede finally occurs, one may not resemble the kuffars by showing signs of mercy and compassion towards the victims, weak and disabled. The purpose of Hajj is to prepare oneself for great jihad and stampede is the Allah's way to eliminate the weak, incapable and false.
- No funeral and mourning should be held for the dead of stampede. They should be buried silently in a mass grave with the following understanding. "If shit happens, it happens with the will of Allah".
- One may not give suggestions for reducing the stampede death toll or avoiding stampede. It will be considered interruption in Allah plan and he will reveal a thousand angry revelations through Gabriel.
Thursday, December 14, 2006
Its thursday morning...
First, some medieval age tribal brickery of Saudi's.
They have been doing it for thousand of years and will continue to do so in future
My Tribe Can Beat Up Your Tribe
And now seems like even after a year, Yemen hasn't moved on with the danish cartoons of prophet. Ok prophet has got insulted in the past and will continue to do so forever. Infact somewhere in Spain, there is a festival of Muhammed Burning every year celebrating the exit of Islam from Spain. But no one seems to be mad about it infact I have hardly seen any Muslim aware of it execpt of Mr A. from Religious Policeman. Ignorance and lasting enmity are traits Prophet SAW has strictly ordered to abstain from yet these Prophet SAW loving people cannot see through his teachings or bother to adopt them.
Yemen Bans Two Journalists Over Prophet Cartoons
Annual Muslims stampede contest is coming and Sheikh Bozo will be issuing a fatwa on that soon.
They have been doing it for thousand of years and will continue to do so in future
My Tribe Can Beat Up Your Tribe
And now seems like even after a year, Yemen hasn't moved on with the danish cartoons of prophet. Ok prophet has got insulted in the past and will continue to do so forever. Infact somewhere in Spain, there is a festival of Muhammed Burning every year celebrating the exit of Islam from Spain. But no one seems to be mad about it infact I have hardly seen any Muslim aware of it execpt of Mr A. from Religious Policeman. Ignorance and lasting enmity are traits Prophet SAW has strictly ordered to abstain from yet these Prophet SAW loving people cannot see through his teachings or bother to adopt them.
Yemen Bans Two Journalists Over Prophet Cartoons
Annual Muslims stampede contest is coming and Sheikh Bozo will be issuing a fatwa on that soon.
Thursday, December 7, 2006
What do female sucide bombers get???
For 14 centuries this has been a matter of national importance and embrassment for the "Ummah". Ever since the revelation of 72 virgins females as a matrydom reward to men and advent of explosives by chinese, thousands of sex deprived men have blown themselves all over the world in notrious act. Taking the lead in this competition for past 55 years is offcourse Hammas, who is also credited for longest surviving terror organisation and holding the highest number of copyrights in sucide bombing technologies. Since their first use of females in sucide attacks, debate has got further intensified. And this question which is ringing in the head of intelactuals all over the world is:
What do female sucide bombers get in paraside compared to their male counter parts who are entitled to 72 virgins???
SomeBozo Blog take pride in being the first to bring answer to the worlds mind based on refined research courtesy of Sheikh Bozo.
Fatwa as follows..
What do female sucide bombers get in paraside compared to their male counter parts who are entitled to 72 virgins???
SomeBozo Blog take pride in being the first to bring answer to the worlds mind based on refined research courtesy of Sheikh Bozo.
Fatwa as follows..
Women cannot be entitled to 72 virgin men because sleeping with 72 men would be considered prostitution and against the basic principles of chasity in paradise. Based on the god vision of equity between genders, Allah will reward martrayer women with strong built man bearing 72 penises.
The women shall enjoy the pure semen seeping out from every orifice of these Allah's creatures made to please their chaste mistress in paradise.
And Allah (swt) knoweth the bestest!!
For the viewing pleasure of visitors.
Credits for image discovery goes to Mandy, a long time friend.
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Just a side note, wouldn't it be hell if one has to handle a virgins in paradise and that is 72 of them. Paradise is for enjoyment and anyone with a brain size of a pea should be asking something better. May be God has a sense of humor unexplained to humans and he gets his laughs by rewarding idiots in a quite complex manner.
May jihad be upon you.. ;-)
Saudi Arabia invites forigeners to concentration camps!!
Kudos to SCT for undertaking this brave initiative..Much appreciated!
Now back to the forigen tourism in Saudi Arabia, I can see in which direction this will lead in power struggle with the Muttawa's and religious hard liners being bred at public education institutes for 50 years. Forigen tourism in Saudi Arabia is leading no further than a bunch of forginers admitting themselves voluntarily into Islamic concentration camps. Perhaps the unrecurited sucide bombers will get a job at blowing SAPTCO busses.
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Ya Hala!’
Wednesday, 06 December 2006
Mutawwas Get Training on Tolerance, Communication Skills
By Shahid Ali Khan
Wednesday, 06 December 2006
Mutawwas Get Training on Tolerance, Communication Skills
By Shahid Ali Khan
Source: The Saudi Gazette
RIYADH MEMBERS of the Commission for Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice are being given training in religious tolerance, communication skills and how to behave with people of different cultures and faiths.
RIYADH MEMBERS of the Commission for Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice are being given training in religious tolerance, communication skills and how to behave with people of different cultures and faiths.
Isn't that against the basic doctrine of muttawas?? I mean muttawa's were set up to bring moral policing on Muslims and dicipline to "infidels" from their practices. So how will it go now??? Instead of muttawa hitting the uncovered face lady with a stick, they would go and ask politely, "Mam please cover your face, your infidel practices are offending us"
The orientation course by the Supreme Commission for Tourism (SCT) is part of the national tourism promotion campaign under a larger program dubbed as “Ya Hala!” or “Welcome,” said Dr. Abdullah S. Al-Weshail, Director-General of National Human Resource Development Project for Tourism.
Under this pioneering project around 80 high-ranking mutawwas were given a three-day training in Jeddah, Riyadh and Dammam, Al-Weshail told The Saudi Gazette in an exclusive interview. Based on the feedback and a proper assessment, SCT is planning to launch a three-year intensive training program for mutawwas and officials of the Ministry of Interior, including police and security personnel, customs and immigration officials. Saudi taxi drivers will also be included in the orientation course to promote tourism.
The orientation course by the Supreme Commission for Tourism (SCT) is part of the national tourism promotion campaign under a larger program dubbed as “Ya Hala!” or “Welcome,” said Dr. Abdullah S. Al-Weshail, Director-General of National Human Resource Development Project for Tourism.
Under this pioneering project around 80 high-ranking mutawwas were given a three-day training in Jeddah, Riyadh and Dammam, Al-Weshail told The Saudi Gazette in an exclusive interview. Based on the feedback and a proper assessment, SCT is planning to launch a three-year intensive training program for mutawwas and officials of the Ministry of Interior, including police and security personnel, customs and immigration officials. Saudi taxi drivers will also be included in the orientation course to promote tourism.
Ok I can understand and appreciate the involement of customs, law enforcement and social servicemen but what the heck..!! muttawa's again??? Aren't they are rigrious religio-moral police and this kind of training is only going to conflict with basic doctrines of wahabism..What a pity to the officals of this "contradict kingdom". Aren't the muttawa's supposed to trained in religious tolerance when they graduate from Immam University?? Oops the Immam University works on wahabi principles so the only good infidel is a deal infidel whose head has be chopped off my notrious Jihad joe..
The basic aim of this human resource development program is to prepare for the potential influx of non-Muslim tourists once the sector is fully opened for foreign tourists, Al-Weshail said.
Presently, workers in government agencies are being readied to tackle the intra-city tourism and properly interact with tourists visiting from Gulf and Arab countries.
“Proper understanding of different cultures and faiths is very important for tourism promotion in Saudi Arabia,” he said.
Ohh so seems like this understand should only be inflicted when oil revenues aren't enough anymore to feed clans and tribes of bedouins. So they go take a lesson on tolerance and start tourism. Hope Saudi's would have given these tolerance lessons before Immam University graduates went on their jihad spree . Sorry too late now.. Offcourse there won't be any lesson in Jewish culture either.
The SCT’s HR Development program is divided into three major areas such as nationalization of occupation in the tourism sector, awareness program and inviting investment from Saudis and foreign investors in training programs, Al-Weshail said.
Every where, tourism is a multinational industry designed to cater visitor from all over the world according to their nature. But here in a Saudized tourism industry, I can see which directions this will lead to.
“Saudi Arabia’s tourism sector will open around 1.5 million jobs during the next 20 years. It requires a huge investment for opening training institutes, colleges and universities to produce qualified graduates to work in the hospitality industry,” he said.
Well the usual business here. 1.5 million is not at all optimistic provided that in next 20 years, Saudi job seekers in that industry will be something like 4 million. And Saudi universities satisfying labour market needs is a bearucratic dream waiting to be fullfilled in next 99 years.
SCT has been training public and private sector staff involved directly or indirectly in the tourism sector. Around 100 police and security personnel have undergone a training program at King Fahd Security College in Riyadh. “The SCT is planning to train around 40,000 security personnel during the coming years,” Al-Weshail said.
The training program for mutawwas was designed in close cooperation with the SCT, the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice and the Institute of Public Administration (IPA), he said.
SCT has been training public and private sector staff involved directly or indirectly in the tourism sector. Around 100 police and security personnel have undergone a training program at King Fahd Security College in Riyadh. “The SCT is planning to train around 40,000 security personnel during the coming years,” Al-Weshail said.
The training program for mutawwas was designed in close cooperation with the SCT, the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice and the Institute of Public Administration (IPA), he said.
What is the point of Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice when "infidels" will be roaming over the "holy land" freely and muttawa's not being able to do anything about it for the basic purpose of that commison was to keep the 'infidels" in check..
Dr. Al-Weshail clarified that the planned training program for mutawwas was not because of some cases, which received negative media coverage.
Dr. Al-Weshail clarified that the planned training program for mutawwas was not because of some cases, which received negative media coverage.
Ohh comeon, we all know the proficieny of those "muttawas" and their deeds make news on daily basis. I would be surprised and infact call it negative coverage if I get to read an outrageous headline like "Muttawa's distribute Christman presents at expatriate compound".
“It would be totally baseless to link the SCT training program to those incidents,” he said. The members in the Commission are recruited after undergoing a number of training programs “and they are qualified personnel,” he said.
Denials don't change facts. SCT is simply afraid that their multi-million efforts might get wasted in confrontation with aggressive muttawa's. But in the end, kudos to SCT for not only thinking about this initiative but also undertaking it.
Muttawa camp in Bani Malek - Jeddah
Monday, December 4, 2006
Assassination Awards!!
First off.. I dont understand how news about assassination plot can be merged with award ceremony for religious nuts..??
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Assassination Plots Foiled
Raid Qusti & Ali Al-Zahrani,
Source: Arab News
RIYADH, 4 December 2006 — Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah was honored yesterday at a ceremony for the distribution of Naif Ibn Abdul Aziz Al-Saud International Prize for Sunnah and Contemporary Islamic Studies. The king had won the prestigious award for serving the Sunnah (the sayings and life of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him).
I can't figure out how did he managed to serve the sunnah but as a rule of thumb, being the rule of Saudi Arabia he is entitled to this award by default. Isn't it??? A mere attempt to gain publicity in the Islamic block..
The Supreme Commission of the Prize chose the king as the recipient due to his many efforts to serve Islam and Muslims, such as proposing an emergency meeting of the Organization of the Islamic Conference last year in Makkah in light of the challenges faced by the Muslim world.
So if you call a meeting you are entitled to award. A good point to be learned from Saudi incompetency. We all know what happens in those OIC meetings. The world's best incompetent leaders gather to have some mandi, kabsa and juice.
Attending the event on behalf of Abdullah was Crown Prince Sultan, deputy premier and minister of defense and aviation, who distributed certificates and cash prizes to the winners. Among the other dignitaries who attended were Prince Naif, interior minister and the president of the Supreme Commission of the Prize, Riyadh Gov. Prince Salman, president of the Shoura Council Sheikh Saleh Bin-Humaid, ministers, Grand Mufti Sheikh AbdulAziz Al-Asheikh, the grand mufti of Lebanon and the mufti of Egypt.
So despite being so dignified, he couldn't attend the ceremony. How shameful!! may be he didnt want to face the intrusive media representatives.
Speaking to reporters after the ceremony, Prince Naif said that the members of the seven terrorist cells busted by the government plotted a number of assassinations and terrorist operations in the country. “Security officers are ready to foil any future terrorist operation.”
The interior minister said people behind these terrorist cells “are the enemies of Islam and Muslims even if they have an Islamic mask.” He said that the arrested terrorists had political and economic agendas. “Their aim is to turn Muslim against Muslim,” he said, adding that this would only benefit non-Muslims.
Isn't this a bit out of subject. Or even a wrong mix and match. What sensible reporter in world would question something not even in the same horizon. Or may be someone asked an intrusive question to nasty Naif and he couldn't do better than just steer the reporter off the subject. Totally idiotic to talk about assassination attempts during an award ceremony for religion. It wasn't even releated to law and order. But kudos, they can always find a relation of any event with Islam and muslims. Aren't the so called Islamic terrorist your own product of Immam University???
The minister said the government had no plans to increase the number of its administrative regions, adding that governors were doing their best to serve the country and notified the king of the challenges they faced in their regions.
Governers are doing the best of their incompetency and corruption.
Naif said that the aim of his international prize was to “protect the image of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) from all sorts of mockery,” citing that in the recent past the prophet has been a target of mockery from the enemies of Islam.
And he will be mocked until:
1. Islam is reformed, not by changing the Koran or something but by revising its practices and making it compatible with 21st century. Something revealed in 6th century cannot be used to dictate life in 21st century. Evolution is a part of survival. Those who reject change are burried in history.
2. Closing down Immam University
3. Opening up the magic kingdom to all kind of rights especially human and women.
Said Al-Harthi, adviser to the interior minister and secretary-general of the Supreme Commission of the Prize, announced the winners of this year’s prize. The Prophet’s Sunnah Prize was awarded to Basim Al-Jawabra, a Jordanian national, for his research titled “Infidelity Charges in the Light of the Prophet’s Sunnah.”
For how long we will like to judge morals by the doubtful doctrine of Sunnah. Don't we have enough modren laws. Or medival laws of lashing already implemented in Saudi Arabia??
In the same category, another prize was given to Saudi national Nawal Al-Eid for her research paper titled: “The Rights of Women in the Prophet’s Sunnah.”
After screening by graduates of Immam University and confirming that that abide by the "Saudi Standard".
Mohammad Waqiallah Ahmed, a Sudanese national, won the Contemporary Islamic Studies Prize for his research titled: “Islam in Current Western Curricula — Review and Criticism.”
At the ceremony, Prince Salman said the prize encouraged researchers to serve the Sunnah. “It also encourages the youth to adopt Sunnah in their lifestyle and implant the love of the Prophet in the hearts of Muslim youth.”
Dont they have enough sunnah?? Or they want to raise the bar of polygamy from 4 to 23. Perhaps a clever way or saying all Muslim youth should graduate from Immam University..
Al-Harthi said Crown Prince Sultan’s attendance on behalf of King Abdullah illustrated the keenness of the country’s leadership to support Islamic research on the Qur’an and Sunnah, which is the constitution of the Kingdom.
And for as long it stays the constitution of this country, we should forget anout any Human rights. I advice all bright saudi women flee to west and file for asylum.
He said 306 research papers were submitted. Seventy-nine research works were rejected in the first phase. In the second phase, an additional 112 research works were rejected after they were evaluated by a number of university professors. “The remaining 115 research papers were then scrutinized by the most qualified religious scholars in the Kingdom,” he said.
They simply didn't pass the "quality control" of Immam University graduates or did not confirm to wahabi standards and were therefore rejected.
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Assassination Plots Foiled
Raid Qusti & Ali Al-Zahrani,
Source: Arab News
RIYADH, 4 December 2006 — Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah was honored yesterday at a ceremony for the distribution of Naif Ibn Abdul Aziz Al-Saud International Prize for Sunnah and Contemporary Islamic Studies. The king had won the prestigious award for serving the Sunnah (the sayings and life of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him).
I can't figure out how did he managed to serve the sunnah but as a rule of thumb, being the rule of Saudi Arabia he is entitled to this award by default. Isn't it??? A mere attempt to gain publicity in the Islamic block..
The Supreme Commission of the Prize chose the king as the recipient due to his many efforts to serve Islam and Muslims, such as proposing an emergency meeting of the Organization of the Islamic Conference last year in Makkah in light of the challenges faced by the Muslim world.
So if you call a meeting you are entitled to award. A good point to be learned from Saudi incompetency. We all know what happens in those OIC meetings. The world's best incompetent leaders gather to have some mandi, kabsa and juice.
Attending the event on behalf of Abdullah was Crown Prince Sultan, deputy premier and minister of defense and aviation, who distributed certificates and cash prizes to the winners. Among the other dignitaries who attended were Prince Naif, interior minister and the president of the Supreme Commission of the Prize, Riyadh Gov. Prince Salman, president of the Shoura Council Sheikh Saleh Bin-Humaid, ministers, Grand Mufti Sheikh AbdulAziz Al-Asheikh, the grand mufti of Lebanon and the mufti of Egypt.
So despite being so dignified, he couldn't attend the ceremony. How shameful!! may be he didnt want to face the intrusive media representatives.
Speaking to reporters after the ceremony, Prince Naif said that the members of the seven terrorist cells busted by the government plotted a number of assassinations and terrorist operations in the country. “Security officers are ready to foil any future terrorist operation.”
The interior minister said people behind these terrorist cells “are the enemies of Islam and Muslims even if they have an Islamic mask.” He said that the arrested terrorists had political and economic agendas. “Their aim is to turn Muslim against Muslim,” he said, adding that this would only benefit non-Muslims.
Isn't this a bit out of subject. Or even a wrong mix and match. What sensible reporter in world would question something not even in the same horizon. Or may be someone asked an intrusive question to nasty Naif and he couldn't do better than just steer the reporter off the subject. Totally idiotic to talk about assassination attempts during an award ceremony for religion. It wasn't even releated to law and order. But kudos, they can always find a relation of any event with Islam and muslims. Aren't the so called Islamic terrorist your own product of Immam University???
The minister said the government had no plans to increase the number of its administrative regions, adding that governors were doing their best to serve the country and notified the king of the challenges they faced in their regions.
Governers are doing the best of their incompetency and corruption.
Naif said that the aim of his international prize was to “protect the image of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) from all sorts of mockery,” citing that in the recent past the prophet has been a target of mockery from the enemies of Islam.
And he will be mocked until:
1. Islam is reformed, not by changing the Koran or something but by revising its practices and making it compatible with 21st century. Something revealed in 6th century cannot be used to dictate life in 21st century. Evolution is a part of survival. Those who reject change are burried in history.
2. Closing down Immam University
3. Opening up the magic kingdom to all kind of rights especially human and women.
Said Al-Harthi, adviser to the interior minister and secretary-general of the Supreme Commission of the Prize, announced the winners of this year’s prize. The Prophet’s Sunnah Prize was awarded to Basim Al-Jawabra, a Jordanian national, for his research titled “Infidelity Charges in the Light of the Prophet’s Sunnah.”
For how long we will like to judge morals by the doubtful doctrine of Sunnah. Don't we have enough modren laws. Or medival laws of lashing already implemented in Saudi Arabia??
In the same category, another prize was given to Saudi national Nawal Al-Eid for her research paper titled: “The Rights of Women in the Prophet’s Sunnah.”
After screening by graduates of Immam University and confirming that that abide by the "Saudi Standard".
Mohammad Waqiallah Ahmed, a Sudanese national, won the Contemporary Islamic Studies Prize for his research titled: “Islam in Current Western Curricula — Review and Criticism.”
At the ceremony, Prince Salman said the prize encouraged researchers to serve the Sunnah. “It also encourages the youth to adopt Sunnah in their lifestyle and implant the love of the Prophet in the hearts of Muslim youth.”
Dont they have enough sunnah?? Or they want to raise the bar of polygamy from 4 to 23. Perhaps a clever way or saying all Muslim youth should graduate from Immam University..
Al-Harthi said Crown Prince Sultan’s attendance on behalf of King Abdullah illustrated the keenness of the country’s leadership to support Islamic research on the Qur’an and Sunnah, which is the constitution of the Kingdom.
And for as long it stays the constitution of this country, we should forget anout any Human rights. I advice all bright saudi women flee to west and file for asylum.
He said 306 research papers were submitted. Seventy-nine research works were rejected in the first phase. In the second phase, an additional 112 research works were rejected after they were evaluated by a number of university professors. “The remaining 115 research papers were then scrutinized by the most qualified religious scholars in the Kingdom,” he said.
They simply didn't pass the "quality control" of Immam University graduates or did not confirm to wahabi standards and were therefore rejected.
Thursday, November 30, 2006
Enough with human rights..now god given rights!!
Seems like Saudi's are now bored with abolishing UN Human rights so they are not stepping over the god given rights too!!..What a perfect Islamic kingdom..A human is born free and two able opposite genders can copulate regardless of their look, ethnicity and origins. But Saudi have decided to super seed god and rule out the rituals or human race and replace them with what they seem to fit.
The Saudi Government belives that Saudi gene pool is "holier than thou" best of all human civilization, therefore it should be polluted by copulating with forigeners. In other words, they feel compelled to stop the spread of genetic stupidity around the world which prevails in Saudi's generation to generation.
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Punishing Saudis for Marrying Foreigners Is Absurd
Abeer Mishkhas, abeermishkhas@arabnews.com
Source: Arab News
THERE ARE many ways of dealing with problems. Some require laws while others need only awareness, but in Saudi Arabia it seems the easiest way out is to ban the problem from happening. Needless to say, banning never works but it still remains our favorite solution.
Three years ago there was a campaign to dissuade Saudis from marrying non-Saudis. The campaign aimed at enlightening people about the negative aspects of going outside the Kingdom’s borders and choosing a partner. The study deservedly earned the disdain of many at the time. It failed to solve anything that its proponents saw as problems nor did it reduce the number of Saudis who wanted to marry non-Saudis.
Now lets see why Saudi men don't want to marry Saudi Women. The first idea which strikes mind is that a man never gets to meet a woman in Saudi Arabia. In fact meeting a Saudi women would be more of a poetic fancy than reality. Therefore he is very likely to get carried away with his Indonesian maid or the woman he met during his vacation destination. Considering that he doesn't have to wait for the approval of entire bride's family and pay extravagated marriage expenses and dowry, a forigen bride becomes a more economically favorable option.
This week, I was shocked to see an interview with an official in a local paper. He was speaking about this very issue and the interview began with a denial that the numbers of Saudis marrying foreign women/men had reached “alarming” levels. The official stated that the ministry had put in place measures and guidelines to limit the “negative and harmful aspects of such marriages.”
The interviewer then asked what would be done if someone took the step of actually marrying a non-Saudi without taking official permission. Following are the measures:
* Disciplinary action against the Saudi;
* Not allowing the marriage to be registered as legal in the Kingdom;
* Not granting an entrance visa to the foreigner — either wife or husband — and if the wife or husband are already in the Kingdom, then their residency is terminated.
Now I wonder where is the Ministry of Vice and Virtue gone!!!..They should really come on and scare the minister aganist the punishment in hell he will get for crafting such laws. Ohh but wait..the muttawas are too busy chasing unveiled women on the streets!
Heavy measures indeed! One would think that whoever was punished so harshly was a serious and hardened criminal. In truth, he or she is simply someone who tried to live his or her life within his or her rights as a human being. Now I understand and accept that there are procedures to be followed before visas can be issued and residency can be given to non-Saudis, but these things should not encroach upon people’s God-given rights. In several cases, women choose to marry men from abroad and they are entitled to judge for themselves if they are making the right choice.
In our family-oriented society in which a family’s consent for a marriage is necessary, if the man and woman marry with the family’s blessing and approval, that should be enough for everybody. Taking the matters to a higher level than the family concerned and turning the marriage into an international affair that requires official permission is complicating things unnecessarily and I wonder how such can be Islamically justified.
There is an Islamic solution to this problem. Enforce every man to take four wives..How nice..sorry to say but Islam just seem to worsen the problems..
I know of several cases in which women had to wait for years to get permission, even though they had the consent of their families.
To look for a moment at the matter from another perspective, there are many undecided cases in the courts of Saudi women who have filed for divorce from their Saudi husbands. In many of those cases, the women have been abused and sometimes denied access to their children. For whatever reason, many of those cases, involving only Saudis, have not been resolved and it seems that few of those who should are actually trying to find legal ways and solutions.
But it is between the Saudi's so its ok. Incase you have missed it earlier..the Saudi's are holier tha thou and being decendents of the holy prophet..they are all laws spared..pardoned at every deed...
Some Saudi men have also had bad experiences when they married women from outside the country; for sure, marrying a Saudi is not always guaranteed to work wonders or to result in blissful happiness. At the same time, there are cases in which “mixed marriages” (between a Saudi and a non-Saudi) have outlasted many Saudi-only marriages. It seems that this brings us yet again to an idea that has been sadly prevalent in the Kingdom for some time — that we Saudis are special and different. We are not but we like to deceive ourselves.
Isn't the entire Saudi culture is based on deception??? and lets not forget the religion of peace..
I remember a friend who was trying to get permission to marry a non-Saudi. She waited for two years before discovering that the documents were locked in some official’s drawer simply because he thought she should not marry outside her tribe and country. Only by pulling some strings was she finally able to get her papers processed and marry the man of her choice.
Her case has always made me wonder: Why do people need to postpone their lives and decisions for the sake of a man-made law that should not even exist?
If prophet could control destiny of hundred of people and the people of Hejaz agreed with him without an objection...then you shouldn't really complain about the ministry official. He is doing his duty as allocated to him by his government and religion. That is moral and societal guarding.
Sorry you are not getting any of your Human or God Given rights in this country until that Holy book is thrown out of constitution..
The Saudi Government belives that Saudi gene pool is "holier than thou" best of all human civilization, therefore it should be polluted by copulating with forigeners. In other words, they feel compelled to stop the spread of genetic stupidity around the world which prevails in Saudi's generation to generation.
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Punishing Saudis for Marrying Foreigners Is Absurd
Abeer Mishkhas, abeermishkhas@arabnews.com
Source: Arab News
THERE ARE many ways of dealing with problems. Some require laws while others need only awareness, but in Saudi Arabia it seems the easiest way out is to ban the problem from happening. Needless to say, banning never works but it still remains our favorite solution.
Three years ago there was a campaign to dissuade Saudis from marrying non-Saudis. The campaign aimed at enlightening people about the negative aspects of going outside the Kingdom’s borders and choosing a partner. The study deservedly earned the disdain of many at the time. It failed to solve anything that its proponents saw as problems nor did it reduce the number of Saudis who wanted to marry non-Saudis.
Now lets see why Saudi men don't want to marry Saudi Women. The first idea which strikes mind is that a man never gets to meet a woman in Saudi Arabia. In fact meeting a Saudi women would be more of a poetic fancy than reality. Therefore he is very likely to get carried away with his Indonesian maid or the woman he met during his vacation destination. Considering that he doesn't have to wait for the approval of entire bride's family and pay extravagated marriage expenses and dowry, a forigen bride becomes a more economically favorable option.
This week, I was shocked to see an interview with an official in a local paper. He was speaking about this very issue and the interview began with a denial that the numbers of Saudis marrying foreign women/men had reached “alarming” levels. The official stated that the ministry had put in place measures and guidelines to limit the “negative and harmful aspects of such marriages.”
The interviewer then asked what would be done if someone took the step of actually marrying a non-Saudi without taking official permission. Following are the measures:
* Disciplinary action against the Saudi;
* Not allowing the marriage to be registered as legal in the Kingdom;
* Not granting an entrance visa to the foreigner — either wife or husband — and if the wife or husband are already in the Kingdom, then their residency is terminated.
Now I wonder where is the Ministry of Vice and Virtue gone!!!..They should really come on and scare the minister aganist the punishment in hell he will get for crafting such laws. Ohh but wait..the muttawas are too busy chasing unveiled women on the streets!
Heavy measures indeed! One would think that whoever was punished so harshly was a serious and hardened criminal. In truth, he or she is simply someone who tried to live his or her life within his or her rights as a human being. Now I understand and accept that there are procedures to be followed before visas can be issued and residency can be given to non-Saudis, but these things should not encroach upon people’s God-given rights. In several cases, women choose to marry men from abroad and they are entitled to judge for themselves if they are making the right choice.
In our family-oriented society in which a family’s consent for a marriage is necessary, if the man and woman marry with the family’s blessing and approval, that should be enough for everybody. Taking the matters to a higher level than the family concerned and turning the marriage into an international affair that requires official permission is complicating things unnecessarily and I wonder how such can be Islamically justified.
There is an Islamic solution to this problem. Enforce every man to take four wives..How nice..sorry to say but Islam just seem to worsen the problems..
I know of several cases in which women had to wait for years to get permission, even though they had the consent of their families.
To look for a moment at the matter from another perspective, there are many undecided cases in the courts of Saudi women who have filed for divorce from their Saudi husbands. In many of those cases, the women have been abused and sometimes denied access to their children. For whatever reason, many of those cases, involving only Saudis, have not been resolved and it seems that few of those who should are actually trying to find legal ways and solutions.
But it is between the Saudi's so its ok. Incase you have missed it earlier..the Saudi's are holier tha thou and being decendents of the holy prophet..they are all laws spared..pardoned at every deed...
Some Saudi men have also had bad experiences when they married women from outside the country; for sure, marrying a Saudi is not always guaranteed to work wonders or to result in blissful happiness. At the same time, there are cases in which “mixed marriages” (between a Saudi and a non-Saudi) have outlasted many Saudi-only marriages. It seems that this brings us yet again to an idea that has been sadly prevalent in the Kingdom for some time — that we Saudis are special and different. We are not but we like to deceive ourselves.
Isn't the entire Saudi culture is based on deception??? and lets not forget the religion of peace..
I remember a friend who was trying to get permission to marry a non-Saudi. She waited for two years before discovering that the documents were locked in some official’s drawer simply because he thought she should not marry outside her tribe and country. Only by pulling some strings was she finally able to get her papers processed and marry the man of her choice.
Her case has always made me wonder: Why do people need to postpone their lives and decisions for the sake of a man-made law that should not even exist?
If prophet could control destiny of hundred of people and the people of Hejaz agreed with him without an objection...then you shouldn't really complain about the ministry official. He is doing his duty as allocated to him by his government and religion. That is moral and societal guarding.
Sorry you are not getting any of your Human or God Given rights in this country until that Holy book is thrown out of constitution..
Thursday, November 16, 2006
Seems like internet censorship is really weakend
[Orignall Posted March 29 2006]
As usual doing my investigations regarding the strength of Saudi censorship and proxies i found out they have been weakend subsequently since the start of 2006. Seems like they are really affected by the new US regulations dealing with IT security hardware and software. Under which, IT security gaints are supposed to restrict the sale of censorship equipments to oppresive regimes. Securecomputing and Cisco are just two to name here.
So welcome everyone, you dont need JAP or Privoxy anymore to bypass censorship and live with their slow as hell proxy servers. Many simpler utilities which never used work in past will work now and transparently indeed due to weakend censorship gateways. Another trick to bypass censorship is to hide your IP from being detected through internet explorer. Mind you, many forums and blog will not allow you to post if you do this.
Now im not gonna mention an entire how-to here regarding how to do this because i fear it may result in shutdown of this blog by MSN due to excessive traffic. If if are curious, shoot me a message.
As usual doing my investigations regarding the strength of Saudi censorship and proxies i found out they have been weakend subsequently since the start of 2006. Seems like they are really affected by the new US regulations dealing with IT security hardware and software. Under which, IT security gaints are supposed to restrict the sale of censorship equipments to oppresive regimes. Securecomputing and Cisco are just two to name here.
So welcome everyone, you dont need JAP or Privoxy anymore to bypass censorship and live with their slow as hell proxy servers. Many simpler utilities which never used work in past will work now and transparently indeed due to weakend censorship gateways. Another trick to bypass censorship is to hide your IP from being detected through internet explorer. Mind you, many forums and blog will not allow you to post if you do this.
Now im not gonna mention an entire how-to here regarding how to do this because i fear it may result in shutdown of this blog by MSN due to excessive traffic. If if are curious, shoot me a message.
More camel fun...
[Orignally Posted January 26 2006]
Oh well, camel is more expensive than a luxry car in this country. It amazing that, people have money to waste in such ridicolus manner where as the workers wages are falling lower day by day.
Camel Worth Millions Stolen, Recovered
Source: Arab News
RIYADH, 25 January 2006 — Saudi Arabia’s most prized camel was retrieved from thieves seeking to fertilize their stock, Okaz daily reported. Owners of the Kingdom’s most prized camel charge SR6,000 for the opportunity to mate the rare breed with female camels. Police said the motive for the theft was that appointments for mating the camel are hard to come by. The owner of the camel had paid SR5.1 million for the camel and recently turned down an offer to sell for SR5 million.
Oh well, camel is more expensive than a luxry car in this country. It amazing that, people have money to waste in such ridicolus manner where as the workers wages are falling lower day by day.
Camel Worth Millions Stolen, Recovered
Source: Arab News
RIYADH, 25 January 2006 — Saudi Arabia’s most prized camel was retrieved from thieves seeking to fertilize their stock, Okaz daily reported. Owners of the Kingdom’s most prized camel charge SR6,000 for the opportunity to mate the rare breed with female camels. Police said the motive for the theft was that appointments for mating the camel are hard to come by. The owner of the camel had paid SR5.1 million for the camel and recently turned down an offer to sell for SR5 million.
Stupidty has limits
[Orignally Posted January 22 2006]
Religiously insanity and stupidity has limits in the real world. This article is really a well worth writeup itself and doesnt need further commenting
From One Saudi Woman to Another
Mody Al-Khalaf, mody.alkhalaf@gmail.com
Source: ArabNewsWith the constant struggle between conflicting opinions in my country today, I have sadly had to grow used to hearing many statements which discriminate on the basis of sex. What is sad indeed is that all are made in the name of Islam. What I have a hard time comprehending, however, is how statements about female inferiority can be made by women themselves.
In a recent letter asking “for their Islamic rights,” 500 Saudi women wrote a letter to Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah asking him to ignore all that is being written in the papers regarding “Western” rights for women. What the women objected to was the plan to open more jobs to women. They say that since Islam gives men the responsibility of supporting women financially, there is no need for women to work.
Moreover, they claim that the Qur’an orders women to stay at home in order to maintain family harmony. Family life and motherhood, they say, is what best suits a woman’s physical and psychological nature; it is, they said, “our real and natural job and what women have happily lived for since the age of the Prophet (peace be upon him) until today.” For these very reasons, they also ask that our school curriculum be rewritten in a way that is “harmonious with the nature of women, with a special focus on religious subjects, the Arabic language, home economics and motherhood.”
Another point which concerned them is that if women are allowed to work at all the different jobs being suggested — especially those where the working environment is not sexually segregated — then both men and women will be exposed to grave dangers. Hence, all ideas leading to mixing of the sexes should be rejected: “One of the main aims of Shariah is to protect one’s honor by prohibiting any action that leads to irregularity and if such prohibitions are not set, then religion is being assaulted.” This is also why they feel that women should not be allowed to drive since “if women are being sexually harassed in shopping centers, next to schools and in public places, then what will happen if — God forbid — women are allowed to drive?”
The 500 women further demand that all “Westernized” writings and ideas calling for equality between men and women be stopped. At the same time, they ironically ask that the media not be monopolized; what they mean is that religious scholars should be given a chance to reply to those asking for changes that will “shake the structure of our society.” In addition, the women want a separate ministry for women and their problems — though of course, they add that this ministry should be run by competent male religious scholars.
These are just some of the points addressed by the 500 women who emphasize that they reject all claims that the “Westernized minds calling for women’s rights today” represent the needs of Saudi women.
Having a claim to the same nationality, religion and gender, I assume that I have the right to comment on the above without being accused of being a Westernized mind speaking on behalf of a group I do not represent. As a Saudi woman, and one of many who are similarly-minded, I too ask for my Islamic rights.
I ask for my Islamic right to equality. God, in the Qur’an addresses me as a complete human being, created in the same way as man: “Mankind, reverence your guardian lord who created you from a single person, created of like nature, his mate” (Al Nisa, 1); ordered to comply by Islamic law in the same manner and promised the same reward or punishment for my actions: “Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be he male or female, ye are members, one of another” (Al Imran, 195). How dare any human perceive me as inferior or limit my capabilities in an any way?
I ask for my Islamic right for equality in education. The Prophet (peace be upon him) ordered all Muslims to seek knowledge. He did not limit certain fields to one sex or the other. Why should I be limited to religious and domestic subjects when Aisha was a scholar in fields as diverse as religion, poetry and medicine? Moreover, she taught and issued fatwas to both men and women.
I ask for wider vocational opportunities. Unlike what the letter alleges, women even during the Prophet’s age worked in jobs that we no longer work in today. Wasn’t Khadijah, his first wife, a businesswoman, buying, selling, and negotiating with men and women? His other wife, Zainab, worked making handicrafts and sold them. The Prophet’s aunt, Umm Munthur, sold dates in Okaz market. She was a Muslim then and the market was not segregated. Malika Umm Al-Saib was known as a seller of perfume to the Prophet himself. Atika bint Khaled had a tent near the Kaaba where she sold food and drinks to both men and women, just as restaurants do today. Women fought and nursed in wars alongside the Prophet. Women farmed and herded. If the list is limited in any way, it is because of the types of occupations available then — not because of Islamic restrictions. All jobs available to men then were also available to women.
Thus, no job should be denied to women in the name of Islam. Islam forbids an unrelated man and woman from being alone — yes; it does not, however, forbid men and women from mixing. If segregation were the norm, why were we not requested to be segregated in the Holy Mosque?
And to the 500 women, I say this: When you go to hospitals, don’t you ask to see women nurses, dentists and doctors? Who would you ask to see if those nurses, dentists and doctors embraced your interpretation of Islam and restricted themselves to certain fields or stayed at home?
Thus, I ask for my Islamic right to work in marketing, sales, catering, medicine, law, politics, engineering, fashion, the military or any other occupation which I might choose.
I ask that my Islamic rights to financial support, marriage, divorce, alimony, and child custody be translated from verbal theories into practical implications seen in our daily lives. I wonder if the 500 women have noticed that our system has absolutely no power to implement the Islamic rights we should have, including the right to financial support mentioned in their letter. And what if a man does not agree to support me, then what? Am I supposed to sit at home and wait for charity?
I ask for my Islamic rights to travel with any “mahram” and not just my legal guardian. I ask for my Islamic right to eat at a restaurant without a male chaperone. I ask for my Islamic right to drive and not be forced to ride alone with a non-mahram. I ask for my Islamic right to get medical treatment without male consent. I ask for my Islamic right to rent a house without male consent. I ask for my Islamic right to get an education and job without male consent.
And finally, as a Muslim, I ask for my right to choose. In any argument, a Muslim has the right to choose the interpretations he or she wants instead of being forced to go along with other people’s choices. Since I am speaking about women’s rights in particular, where are my rights to choose the interpretations I want regarding my hijab, for example? Whether to cover my face or not is open to several interpretations; and there is certainly no Islamic law that says I must wear black. Aisha said that when given two choices, the Prophet always chose the easier of the two so long as it was not sinful. Why am I being deprived of one of my greatest Islamic rights: To follow in the footsteps of the Prophet?
Freedom of choice is a right the 500 women have too. If they want to stay at home, limit themselves to certain fields of study, refuse to drive, or move only in segregated places then they are at liberty to do so. What they have no right to do, however, is to impose their views on all Muslim women. Nor do they have the right to speak on our behalf to the king.
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(Mody Al-Khalaf is a Saudi writer. She is based in Riyadh.)
Religiously insanity and stupidity has limits in the real world. This article is really a well worth writeup itself and doesnt need further commenting
From One Saudi Woman to Another
Mody Al-Khalaf, mody.alkhalaf@gmail.com
Source: ArabNewsWith the constant struggle between conflicting opinions in my country today, I have sadly had to grow used to hearing many statements which discriminate on the basis of sex. What is sad indeed is that all are made in the name of Islam. What I have a hard time comprehending, however, is how statements about female inferiority can be made by women themselves.
In a recent letter asking “for their Islamic rights,” 500 Saudi women wrote a letter to Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah asking him to ignore all that is being written in the papers regarding “Western” rights for women. What the women objected to was the plan to open more jobs to women. They say that since Islam gives men the responsibility of supporting women financially, there is no need for women to work.
Moreover, they claim that the Qur’an orders women to stay at home in order to maintain family harmony. Family life and motherhood, they say, is what best suits a woman’s physical and psychological nature; it is, they said, “our real and natural job and what women have happily lived for since the age of the Prophet (peace be upon him) until today.” For these very reasons, they also ask that our school curriculum be rewritten in a way that is “harmonious with the nature of women, with a special focus on religious subjects, the Arabic language, home economics and motherhood.”
Another point which concerned them is that if women are allowed to work at all the different jobs being suggested — especially those where the working environment is not sexually segregated — then both men and women will be exposed to grave dangers. Hence, all ideas leading to mixing of the sexes should be rejected: “One of the main aims of Shariah is to protect one’s honor by prohibiting any action that leads to irregularity and if such prohibitions are not set, then religion is being assaulted.” This is also why they feel that women should not be allowed to drive since “if women are being sexually harassed in shopping centers, next to schools and in public places, then what will happen if — God forbid — women are allowed to drive?”
The 500 women further demand that all “Westernized” writings and ideas calling for equality between men and women be stopped. At the same time, they ironically ask that the media not be monopolized; what they mean is that religious scholars should be given a chance to reply to those asking for changes that will “shake the structure of our society.” In addition, the women want a separate ministry for women and their problems — though of course, they add that this ministry should be run by competent male religious scholars.
These are just some of the points addressed by the 500 women who emphasize that they reject all claims that the “Westernized minds calling for women’s rights today” represent the needs of Saudi women.
Having a claim to the same nationality, religion and gender, I assume that I have the right to comment on the above without being accused of being a Westernized mind speaking on behalf of a group I do not represent. As a Saudi woman, and one of many who are similarly-minded, I too ask for my Islamic rights.
I ask for my Islamic right to equality. God, in the Qur’an addresses me as a complete human being, created in the same way as man: “Mankind, reverence your guardian lord who created you from a single person, created of like nature, his mate” (Al Nisa, 1); ordered to comply by Islamic law in the same manner and promised the same reward or punishment for my actions: “Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be he male or female, ye are members, one of another” (Al Imran, 195). How dare any human perceive me as inferior or limit my capabilities in an any way?
I ask for my Islamic right for equality in education. The Prophet (peace be upon him) ordered all Muslims to seek knowledge. He did not limit certain fields to one sex or the other. Why should I be limited to religious and domestic subjects when Aisha was a scholar in fields as diverse as religion, poetry and medicine? Moreover, she taught and issued fatwas to both men and women.
I ask for wider vocational opportunities. Unlike what the letter alleges, women even during the Prophet’s age worked in jobs that we no longer work in today. Wasn’t Khadijah, his first wife, a businesswoman, buying, selling, and negotiating with men and women? His other wife, Zainab, worked making handicrafts and sold them. The Prophet’s aunt, Umm Munthur, sold dates in Okaz market. She was a Muslim then and the market was not segregated. Malika Umm Al-Saib was known as a seller of perfume to the Prophet himself. Atika bint Khaled had a tent near the Kaaba where she sold food and drinks to both men and women, just as restaurants do today. Women fought and nursed in wars alongside the Prophet. Women farmed and herded. If the list is limited in any way, it is because of the types of occupations available then — not because of Islamic restrictions. All jobs available to men then were also available to women.
Thus, no job should be denied to women in the name of Islam. Islam forbids an unrelated man and woman from being alone — yes; it does not, however, forbid men and women from mixing. If segregation were the norm, why were we not requested to be segregated in the Holy Mosque?
And to the 500 women, I say this: When you go to hospitals, don’t you ask to see women nurses, dentists and doctors? Who would you ask to see if those nurses, dentists and doctors embraced your interpretation of Islam and restricted themselves to certain fields or stayed at home?
Thus, I ask for my Islamic right to work in marketing, sales, catering, medicine, law, politics, engineering, fashion, the military or any other occupation which I might choose.
I ask that my Islamic rights to financial support, marriage, divorce, alimony, and child custody be translated from verbal theories into practical implications seen in our daily lives. I wonder if the 500 women have noticed that our system has absolutely no power to implement the Islamic rights we should have, including the right to financial support mentioned in their letter. And what if a man does not agree to support me, then what? Am I supposed to sit at home and wait for charity?
I ask for my Islamic rights to travel with any “mahram” and not just my legal guardian. I ask for my Islamic right to eat at a restaurant without a male chaperone. I ask for my Islamic right to drive and not be forced to ride alone with a non-mahram. I ask for my Islamic right to get medical treatment without male consent. I ask for my Islamic right to rent a house without male consent. I ask for my Islamic right to get an education and job without male consent.
And finally, as a Muslim, I ask for my right to choose. In any argument, a Muslim has the right to choose the interpretations he or she wants instead of being forced to go along with other people’s choices. Since I am speaking about women’s rights in particular, where are my rights to choose the interpretations I want regarding my hijab, for example? Whether to cover my face or not is open to several interpretations; and there is certainly no Islamic law that says I must wear black. Aisha said that when given two choices, the Prophet always chose the easier of the two so long as it was not sinful. Why am I being deprived of one of my greatest Islamic rights: To follow in the footsteps of the Prophet?
Freedom of choice is a right the 500 women have too. If they want to stay at home, limit themselves to certain fields of study, refuse to drive, or move only in segregated places then they are at liberty to do so. What they have no right to do, however, is to impose their views on all Muslim women. Nor do they have the right to speak on our behalf to the king.
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(Mody Al-Khalaf is a Saudi writer. She is based in Riyadh.)
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www.nakedsaudigirls.com now point to this blog. With meta tags and keywords submitted to major search engines, i am expecting some good traffic.
For god sake, get out of your stone age..
[Orignally Posted January 16 2006]
While the world is debating issues like next generation internet, cloning, space stations and high speed information networks, Saudi's are still stuck in the stone age debating issues like women driving and movie theaters. It doesnt get any more pathetic than this and its published in the news papers..
Why No Cinemas?
Source: ArabNews
Saud Al-Balawi • Al-Watan —
This question might be asked by many Saudis who remember seeing films in theaters in the Kingdom as recently as the 1970’s. Certainly the question might be asked by those who travel hundreds — or even thousands of miles — to watch films in neighboring countries. Essentially, cinema is no different from watching TV; indeed many films are shown on our satellite TV stations.
Still, watching a film in a theater is somehow more exciting that watching it at home — and this has made companies run after the profits to be made by opening theaters.
Many people still fondly remember the films once shown in the Al-Hamra Movie Theater in Jeddah. Children saved money from their monthly allowances in order to have outings at the cinema. Last Eid after Ramadan, some hotels in Riyadh began showing children’s film. All indications are that the children who saw the films enjoyed the experience. After the films were shown, the Information Ministry said that it had not issued a permit. The truth is that many people wish the ministry would license movie theaters while others, for their own reasons, hope the ministry will not.
There are people who reject the idea totally. The fear of something new has long been a part of our culture — look at our initial reactions to radio and television. In the past, cinemas were closed because a group in society wanted them closed. These days, many want to see cinemas in the Kingdom as a means of entertainment similar to TV and coffee shops. Our Saudi idea of privacy, which is really a form of isolation, is a problem. Just when we seem about to catch up with the rest of the world, we realize we are trapped far behind. Change will surely come — it has in the past — and it will just as surely be resisted by some.
With its accession to the WTO, Saudi Arabia will witness both economic and social changes. I believe that not being in touch with other cultures will isolate us and make us misunderstood strangers. Rejecting the idea of a cinema is no different from other rejections in the past.
In the past, people rejected the idea of satellite dishes. Now we see them on every rooftop. If we had cinema, it would be under the direct supervision of the Ministry of Culture. Just as virtue is protected in wedding halls, educational institutions and in public, so it will be protected in cinemas. I am sure no one would be forced to go into a cinema and neither should one who wants to enter be prevented from doing so.
Many people, Saudis and non-Saudis, want to enjoy themselves and escape from the pressures of their daily lives. Entertainment could provide a way; it would give people pleasure and enable them to see joy in the faces of their children.
While the world is debating issues like next generation internet, cloning, space stations and high speed information networks, Saudi's are still stuck in the stone age debating issues like women driving and movie theaters. It doesnt get any more pathetic than this and its published in the news papers..
Why No Cinemas?
Source: ArabNews
Saud Al-Balawi • Al-Watan —
This question might be asked by many Saudis who remember seeing films in theaters in the Kingdom as recently as the 1970’s. Certainly the question might be asked by those who travel hundreds — or even thousands of miles — to watch films in neighboring countries. Essentially, cinema is no different from watching TV; indeed many films are shown on our satellite TV stations.
Still, watching a film in a theater is somehow more exciting that watching it at home — and this has made companies run after the profits to be made by opening theaters.
Many people still fondly remember the films once shown in the Al-Hamra Movie Theater in Jeddah. Children saved money from their monthly allowances in order to have outings at the cinema. Last Eid after Ramadan, some hotels in Riyadh began showing children’s film. All indications are that the children who saw the films enjoyed the experience. After the films were shown, the Information Ministry said that it had not issued a permit. The truth is that many people wish the ministry would license movie theaters while others, for their own reasons, hope the ministry will not.
There are people who reject the idea totally. The fear of something new has long been a part of our culture — look at our initial reactions to radio and television. In the past, cinemas were closed because a group in society wanted them closed. These days, many want to see cinemas in the Kingdom as a means of entertainment similar to TV and coffee shops. Our Saudi idea of privacy, which is really a form of isolation, is a problem. Just when we seem about to catch up with the rest of the world, we realize we are trapped far behind. Change will surely come — it has in the past — and it will just as surely be resisted by some.
With its accession to the WTO, Saudi Arabia will witness both economic and social changes. I believe that not being in touch with other cultures will isolate us and make us misunderstood strangers. Rejecting the idea of a cinema is no different from other rejections in the past.
In the past, people rejected the idea of satellite dishes. Now we see them on every rooftop. If we had cinema, it would be under the direct supervision of the Ministry of Culture. Just as virtue is protected in wedding halls, educational institutions and in public, so it will be protected in cinemas. I am sure no one would be forced to go into a cinema and neither should one who wants to enter be prevented from doing so.
Many people, Saudis and non-Saudis, want to enjoy themselves and escape from the pressures of their daily lives. Entertainment could provide a way; it would give people pleasure and enable them to see joy in the faces of their children.
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