Seems like Saudi's are now bored with abolishing UN Human rights so they are not stepping over the god given rights too!!..What a perfect Islamic kingdom..A human is born free and two able opposite genders can copulate regardless of their look, ethnicity and origins. But Saudi have decided to super seed god and rule out the rituals or human race and replace them with what they seem to fit.
The Saudi Government belives that Saudi gene pool is "holier than thou" best of all human civilization, therefore it should be polluted by copulating with forigeners. In other words, they feel compelled to stop the spread of genetic stupidity around the world which prevails in Saudi's generation to generation.
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Punishing Saudis for Marrying Foreigners Is Absurd
Abeer Mishkhas, abeermishkhas@arabnews.com
Source: Arab News
THERE ARE many ways of dealing with problems. Some require laws while others need only awareness, but in Saudi Arabia it seems the easiest way out is to ban the problem from happening. Needless to say, banning never works but it still remains our favorite solution.
Three years ago there was a campaign to dissuade Saudis from marrying non-Saudis. The campaign aimed at enlightening people about the negative aspects of going outside the Kingdom’s borders and choosing a partner. The study deservedly earned the disdain of many at the time. It failed to solve anything that its proponents saw as problems nor did it reduce the number of Saudis who wanted to marry non-Saudis.
Now lets see why Saudi men don't want to marry Saudi Women. The first idea which strikes mind is that a man never gets to meet a woman in Saudi Arabia. In fact meeting a Saudi women would be more of a poetic fancy than reality. Therefore he is very likely to get carried away with his Indonesian maid or the woman he met during his vacation destination. Considering that he doesn't have to wait for the approval of entire bride's family and pay extravagated marriage expenses and dowry, a forigen bride becomes a more economically favorable option.
This week, I was shocked to see an interview with an official in a local paper. He was speaking about this very issue and the interview began with a denial that the numbers of Saudis marrying foreign women/men had reached “alarming” levels. The official stated that the ministry had put in place measures and guidelines to limit the “negative and harmful aspects of such marriages.”
The interviewer then asked what would be done if someone took the step of actually marrying a non-Saudi without taking official permission. Following are the measures:
* Disciplinary action against the Saudi;
* Not allowing the marriage to be registered as legal in the Kingdom;
* Not granting an entrance visa to the foreigner — either wife or husband — and if the wife or husband are already in the Kingdom, then their residency is terminated.
Now I wonder where is the Ministry of Vice and Virtue gone!!!..They should really come on and scare the minister aganist the punishment in hell he will get for crafting such laws. Ohh but wait..the muttawas are too busy chasing unveiled women on the streets!
Heavy measures indeed! One would think that whoever was punished so harshly was a serious and hardened criminal. In truth, he or she is simply someone who tried to live his or her life within his or her rights as a human being. Now I understand and accept that there are procedures to be followed before visas can be issued and residency can be given to non-Saudis, but these things should not encroach upon people’s God-given rights. In several cases, women choose to marry men from abroad and they are entitled to judge for themselves if they are making the right choice.
In our family-oriented society in which a family’s consent for a marriage is necessary, if the man and woman marry with the family’s blessing and approval, that should be enough for everybody. Taking the matters to a higher level than the family concerned and turning the marriage into an international affair that requires official permission is complicating things unnecessarily and I wonder how such can be Islamically justified.
There is an Islamic solution to this problem. Enforce every man to take four wives..How nice..sorry to say but Islam just seem to worsen the problems..
I know of several cases in which women had to wait for years to get permission, even though they had the consent of their families.
To look for a moment at the matter from another perspective, there are many undecided cases in the courts of Saudi women who have filed for divorce from their Saudi husbands. In many of those cases, the women have been abused and sometimes denied access to their children. For whatever reason, many of those cases, involving only Saudis, have not been resolved and it seems that few of those who should are actually trying to find legal ways and solutions.
But it is between the Saudi's so its ok. Incase you have missed it earlier..the Saudi's are holier tha thou and being decendents of the holy prophet..they are all laws spared..pardoned at every deed...
Some Saudi men have also had bad experiences when they married women from outside the country; for sure, marrying a Saudi is not always guaranteed to work wonders or to result in blissful happiness. At the same time, there are cases in which “mixed marriages” (between a Saudi and a non-Saudi) have outlasted many Saudi-only marriages. It seems that this brings us yet again to an idea that has been sadly prevalent in the Kingdom for some time — that we Saudis are special and different. We are not but we like to deceive ourselves.
Isn't the entire Saudi culture is based on deception??? and lets not forget the religion of peace..
I remember a friend who was trying to get permission to marry a non-Saudi. She waited for two years before discovering that the documents were locked in some official’s drawer simply because he thought she should not marry outside her tribe and country. Only by pulling some strings was she finally able to get her papers processed and marry the man of her choice.
Her case has always made me wonder: Why do people need to postpone their lives and decisions for the sake of a man-made law that should not even exist?
If prophet could control destiny of hundred of people and the people of Hejaz agreed with him without an objection...then you shouldn't really complain about the ministry official. He is doing his duty as allocated to him by his government and religion. That is moral and societal guarding.
Sorry you are not getting any of your Human or God Given rights in this country until that Holy book is thrown out of constitution..
Thursday, November 30, 2006
Luck or curse!!!
Four Saudi Teachers Marry Their Driver
Source: Arab News
BAHA, 29 November 2005 — Four Saudi women teaching in a remote village school have married their driver so they can live closer to work, Al-Watan newspaper said yesterday. The women from Al-Baha were impressed with the man’s “good morals” and decided to marry him and live together in the village where they teach — avoiding a tiring daily commute. They were married in a short ceremony, and have agreed to pay the driver a share of their monthly salaries.
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1. He gets four young women..lets wish they are not ugly!!
2. He gets a share out of their salaries. Free money!!
Now the obvious reality, in this mentally retarded genetically molested nation..four women couldn't manage to live by themselves and were forced to marry a man they had no intention of every loving..leave alone blowing his dirty weiner all night long..
Source: Arab News
BAHA, 29 November 2005 — Four Saudi women teaching in a remote village school have married their driver so they can live closer to work, Al-Watan newspaper said yesterday. The women from Al-Baha were impressed with the man’s “good morals” and decided to marry him and live together in the village where they teach — avoiding a tiring daily commute. They were married in a short ceremony, and have agreed to pay the driver a share of their monthly salaries.
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1. He gets four young women..lets wish they are not ugly!!
2. He gets a share out of their salaries. Free money!!
Now the obvious reality, in this mentally retarded genetically molested nation..four women couldn't manage to live by themselves and were forced to marry a man they had no intention of every loving..leave alone blowing his dirty weiner all night long..
More on women and religion
‘Rigid Interpretation of Religion Hampers Women’s Progress’
Javid Hassan,
Source: Arab News
RIYADH, 30 November 2006 — Rigid religious interpretations by a segment of Saudi society and the lack of implementation of policy regarding the rights of women were identified as main hurdles to the progress of women in the Kingdom, who make up only 6.1 percent of the national work force.
Rigid interpretations or government sponsored wahabi religion funded well with oil money!!..Common sense dictates that invisible influences such as religion and culture do not hold back humans from their rights unless there are equally harsh laws to enforce such religion or culture. Religion or culture cannot be blamed when the law itself does not provide equal rights..instead itself is based on such culture or religion. This way, the religion and culture become the moral constitution of the country.
By the way why do we need "identification" here??? its a well known fact and there is no denying that from a person who has a common sense less than the size of grain. The element of surprise author is trying to create by starting off in an explosive tone is just confirming he is a bedouin from Riyadh..
This message rang out loud and clear at the concluding session of the United Nations Development Program’s seminar titled, the “Role of the Media in Human Development.” The feelings of anguish and despair among Saudi women were expressed forcefully through two prize-winning paintings that were on display at the venue of the seminar.
One of the paintings by Nour Attar Dina Abu Dawood, a 9th grade student of Dar Al-Fikr School in Jeddah, shows a series of closed doors. The caption to the painting reads: “We can do it all! Just start by opening the doors.” Another painting by Hgada Al-Afesaan shows a split map of Saudi Arabia reflecting a society torn across by the gender gap.
Mostafa Benlamlih, UN Resident Coordinator, told Arab News that 80 girls (in the 12-18 age group) from nine Saudi and international schools from all over the Kingdom participated in the competition on the Eight UN Millennium Development Goals. The prize-winning exhibits in each category would be used for bringing out posters to highlight the millennium goals in Saudi Arabia.
The suggestions that emerged from the two-day debate would now be submitted to the UN, which will later issue its recommendations that will be placed on its website.
The theme of the discussion was the empowerment of women for the advancement of society. Benlamlih described it as a lively discussion on the issues facing Saudi women. The thrust of the debate was toward equal opportunities for women. Sparks also flew in all directions on the issue of polygamy, with one side in favor of polygamy and the other against it.
The example of Tunisia, where polygamy has been banned, seemed to inspire those ranged against it. Delegates from the men’s side hit back at the advocates of a ban on polygamy by alleging that some of them were divorcees. Overall, it was a healthy debate that produced both heat and light.
Why on earth the comparison is being done with Tunisia..there is an entire continent of Asia, Europe and Americas to compare.
“All we can say is that no one can lay claim to the whole truth. It depends on how you look at it. I hope that through this discussion we had a better understanding of the issues relating to the empowerment of women as well as alternative solutions,” said Benlamlih.
Discussion regarding women rights do no include any women speakers by themselves. Which direction this leads to is clear to all
Speaking to Arab News, Samar Fatany, a Jeddah-based radio journalist and one of the participants in the seminar, said she hoped that the event would “mark a constructive change toward development by confronting the rigid interpretation of Islam and discrimination against women. I hope the debate will help in changing the perception of the image that has harmed Islam and also the image of Saudi Arabia as the leader of the Muslim world.”
Constructive change???? spare me but than is not happening until Saudi Arabia adopts a human rights complaint constitution and abandon 6th century Quran as their constitution. Islam and women rights do not sound compatible in any mix unless you are delusional.
In this context, she stressed the role of the media in highlighting the denial of job opportunities to women wherever they exist. “It should expose any injustice against women or the inefficiencies of the government.” She said the debate also focused on the need for setting up training programs for journalists in the interest of upgrading the professional caliber of the Arab media.
Well, employ a women and go to jail is the law of this country. Your government has explicitly imposed laws to prohibit employing women except in pre-approved professions. And that cuts down the women probability to 1:100000..Unless the ban is lifted..women are not getting any successful and competitive employment anywhere.
Calling for equal opportunities, Adlah Al-Essa, a Saudi woman journalist, said women should not be discriminated against when Islam itself gives them equal rights. “I drive in other countries, but here I can’t. Why should I use a chauffeur-driven car in which I am seated along with someone who is not my relative? What happens if there is an emergency at home and the driver is not available?” she asked.
Islam and equal rights..????? May be Quran talks about equal rights but any nation is as good as it is practiced and in that sense i say it is delusional to think such.
Well if there is an emergency at home and driver is not available.. you fix yourself a straight face and repeat after me.."whatever happens is due to Allah's will"..
The interpretation of the Holy Qur’an, Adlah pointed out, was left to the whims and fancies of some people. “We are not asking for freedom,” he said. “What we are asking for is our legitimate right given by Islam.”
Common sense is a luxry available to gifted ones in this oil gulf. Why brag and drag after a 6th century transcript when the UN Charter of Human rights 1947 is readily available for adoption?????
Regarding interpretation of Quran, well that has been done a few thousand times by now and everytime it come out more or less the same. In a nutshell, it is not gonna work any better than a lame excuse.
Javid Hassan,
Source: Arab News
RIYADH, 30 November 2006 — Rigid religious interpretations by a segment of Saudi society and the lack of implementation of policy regarding the rights of women were identified as main hurdles to the progress of women in the Kingdom, who make up only 6.1 percent of the national work force.
Rigid interpretations or government sponsored wahabi religion funded well with oil money!!..Common sense dictates that invisible influences such as religion and culture do not hold back humans from their rights unless there are equally harsh laws to enforce such religion or culture. Religion or culture cannot be blamed when the law itself does not provide equal rights..instead itself is based on such culture or religion. This way, the religion and culture become the moral constitution of the country.
By the way why do we need "identification" here??? its a well known fact and there is no denying that from a person who has a common sense less than the size of grain. The element of surprise author is trying to create by starting off in an explosive tone is just confirming he is a bedouin from Riyadh..
This message rang out loud and clear at the concluding session of the United Nations Development Program’s seminar titled, the “Role of the Media in Human Development.” The feelings of anguish and despair among Saudi women were expressed forcefully through two prize-winning paintings that were on display at the venue of the seminar.
One of the paintings by Nour Attar Dina Abu Dawood, a 9th grade student of Dar Al-Fikr School in Jeddah, shows a series of closed doors. The caption to the painting reads: “We can do it all! Just start by opening the doors.” Another painting by Hgada Al-Afesaan shows a split map of Saudi Arabia reflecting a society torn across by the gender gap.
Mostafa Benlamlih, UN Resident Coordinator, told Arab News that 80 girls (in the 12-18 age group) from nine Saudi and international schools from all over the Kingdom participated in the competition on the Eight UN Millennium Development Goals. The prize-winning exhibits in each category would be used for bringing out posters to highlight the millennium goals in Saudi Arabia.
The suggestions that emerged from the two-day debate would now be submitted to the UN, which will later issue its recommendations that will be placed on its website.
The theme of the discussion was the empowerment of women for the advancement of society. Benlamlih described it as a lively discussion on the issues facing Saudi women. The thrust of the debate was toward equal opportunities for women. Sparks also flew in all directions on the issue of polygamy, with one side in favor of polygamy and the other against it.
The example of Tunisia, where polygamy has been banned, seemed to inspire those ranged against it. Delegates from the men’s side hit back at the advocates of a ban on polygamy by alleging that some of them were divorcees. Overall, it was a healthy debate that produced both heat and light.
Why on earth the comparison is being done with Tunisia..there is an entire continent of Asia, Europe and Americas to compare.
“All we can say is that no one can lay claim to the whole truth. It depends on how you look at it. I hope that through this discussion we had a better understanding of the issues relating to the empowerment of women as well as alternative solutions,” said Benlamlih.
Discussion regarding women rights do no include any women speakers by themselves. Which direction this leads to is clear to all
Speaking to Arab News, Samar Fatany, a Jeddah-based radio journalist and one of the participants in the seminar, said she hoped that the event would “mark a constructive change toward development by confronting the rigid interpretation of Islam and discrimination against women. I hope the debate will help in changing the perception of the image that has harmed Islam and also the image of Saudi Arabia as the leader of the Muslim world.”
Constructive change???? spare me but than is not happening until Saudi Arabia adopts a human rights complaint constitution and abandon 6th century Quran as their constitution. Islam and women rights do not sound compatible in any mix unless you are delusional.
In this context, she stressed the role of the media in highlighting the denial of job opportunities to women wherever they exist. “It should expose any injustice against women or the inefficiencies of the government.” She said the debate also focused on the need for setting up training programs for journalists in the interest of upgrading the professional caliber of the Arab media.
Well, employ a women and go to jail is the law of this country. Your government has explicitly imposed laws to prohibit employing women except in pre-approved professions. And that cuts down the women probability to 1:100000..Unless the ban is lifted..women are not getting any successful and competitive employment anywhere.
Calling for equal opportunities, Adlah Al-Essa, a Saudi woman journalist, said women should not be discriminated against when Islam itself gives them equal rights. “I drive in other countries, but here I can’t. Why should I use a chauffeur-driven car in which I am seated along with someone who is not my relative? What happens if there is an emergency at home and the driver is not available?” she asked.
Islam and equal rights..????? May be Quran talks about equal rights but any nation is as good as it is practiced and in that sense i say it is delusional to think such.
Well if there is an emergency at home and driver is not available.. you fix yourself a straight face and repeat after me.."whatever happens is due to Allah's will"..
The interpretation of the Holy Qur’an, Adlah pointed out, was left to the whims and fancies of some people. “We are not asking for freedom,” he said. “What we are asking for is our legitimate right given by Islam.”
Common sense is a luxry available to gifted ones in this oil gulf. Why brag and drag after a 6th century transcript when the UN Charter of Human rights 1947 is readily available for adoption?????
Regarding interpretation of Quran, well that has been done a few thousand times by now and everytime it come out more or less the same. In a nutshell, it is not gonna work any better than a lame excuse.
Wednesday, November 29, 2006
Mosques can be used as sale spot and Humor is forbidden in islam!!
‘Your Mama’ Fight Erupts at School
Arab News
JUBAIL, 27 November 2006 — Most people who went to primary public school in the United States, especially in the inner cities, know about the phenomenon of “Your Mama” jokes. The premise of these jokes is to insult another kid’s mother in a creative manner. These off-color jokes often regress into a competition between two kids trying to be as creative and insulting as possible. (For example, “Your momma is so fat she uses a laptop for a cell phone” might be returned with “Your momma is so dumb she sold her car for gas money.”) Often these schoolyard taunts would predictably degrade into fights. Recently, a similar incident happened in an elementary school in Jubail, the daily Al-Watan reported yesterday. A fight broke out between two kids after one of them mentioned the name of the other kid’s mother. The teacher told the newspaper he was disappointed that the child reacted violently to the mention of his mother’s name. Apparently, it didn’t even take an actual insult to his mother to set this kid off. The name was enough.
Apparently the Saudi's don't have the sense of humor, tolerance or cultural diversity as they west. So why bother using their humor in this society. After all humor is forbidden in Islam. Hide away before the chop-chop crowds runs for your neck...
Money or Divorce? Wife Picks Divorce
MAKKAH, 27 November 2006 — Money may make the world go ‘round, but it’s also plays a key role in making or breaking marriages. The daily Al-Madinah recently reported that a man who lost a fortune in the stock market demanded that his wife give him money she had socked away so he could continue his losing streak on the bourse. He also demanded that she sell off all of her jewelry for more cash. When she refused, he laid down an ultimatum: Give him the money or divorce was imminent. Fine, the woman said: It’s divorce then, and she was gone. This serves as a valuable primer for married men everywhere. When you’re broke because you made dumb decisions and sank money into short-term speculation on the stock market (many consider such stock prospecting as the moral equivalent of gambling), the last thing you need to be doing is laying down blackmail and ultimatums against your wife. Honey, she can always find another broke, dumb guy; there are plenty of those fish in sea.
I dont think that the vision of marriage is based on love in an "islamic society" . Marriges have been traditionally business transactions with high dowries (tax) and civilized slavery.
Man Uses Mosque to Rant About Dealership
RIYADH, 27 November 2006 — So there was this guy who was standing next to a vehicle in front of a car dealership in Riyadh. And he must have been dressed like a man of stature because locals at a nearby mosque were arriving for prayer and mistook him as being affiliated with the mosque. They asked him to lead the prayer. The man obliged the people and went in to lead the prayer. Afterward, the man began preaching to the people in the mosque that they should not buy a car from the dealership next door. The people in the mosque were a bit perplexed by this impromptu and strange sermon. According to a report in yesterday’s Al-Madinah daily, a worker in the mosque finally told the people the man was mentally ill and had a bone to pick with the car dealership next door because they have repeatedly refused to sell him a car on a payment plan. The prayer, however, still counts.
No much on that one..just make sure you took the fatwa from local sheikh permitting use of God's house as a sale spot.
Arab News
JUBAIL, 27 November 2006 — Most people who went to primary public school in the United States, especially in the inner cities, know about the phenomenon of “Your Mama” jokes. The premise of these jokes is to insult another kid’s mother in a creative manner. These off-color jokes often regress into a competition between two kids trying to be as creative and insulting as possible. (For example, “Your momma is so fat she uses a laptop for a cell phone” might be returned with “Your momma is so dumb she sold her car for gas money.”) Often these schoolyard taunts would predictably degrade into fights. Recently, a similar incident happened in an elementary school in Jubail, the daily Al-Watan reported yesterday. A fight broke out between two kids after one of them mentioned the name of the other kid’s mother. The teacher told the newspaper he was disappointed that the child reacted violently to the mention of his mother’s name. Apparently, it didn’t even take an actual insult to his mother to set this kid off. The name was enough.
Apparently the Saudi's don't have the sense of humor, tolerance or cultural diversity as they west. So why bother using their humor in this society. After all humor is forbidden in Islam. Hide away before the chop-chop crowds runs for your neck...
Money or Divorce? Wife Picks Divorce
MAKKAH, 27 November 2006 — Money may make the world go ‘round, but it’s also plays a key role in making or breaking marriages. The daily Al-Madinah recently reported that a man who lost a fortune in the stock market demanded that his wife give him money she had socked away so he could continue his losing streak on the bourse. He also demanded that she sell off all of her jewelry for more cash. When she refused, he laid down an ultimatum: Give him the money or divorce was imminent. Fine, the woman said: It’s divorce then, and she was gone. This serves as a valuable primer for married men everywhere. When you’re broke because you made dumb decisions and sank money into short-term speculation on the stock market (many consider such stock prospecting as the moral equivalent of gambling), the last thing you need to be doing is laying down blackmail and ultimatums against your wife. Honey, she can always find another broke, dumb guy; there are plenty of those fish in sea.
I dont think that the vision of marriage is based on love in an "islamic society" . Marriges have been traditionally business transactions with high dowries (tax) and civilized slavery.
Man Uses Mosque to Rant About Dealership
RIYADH, 27 November 2006 — So there was this guy who was standing next to a vehicle in front of a car dealership in Riyadh. And he must have been dressed like a man of stature because locals at a nearby mosque were arriving for prayer and mistook him as being affiliated with the mosque. They asked him to lead the prayer. The man obliged the people and went in to lead the prayer. Afterward, the man began preaching to the people in the mosque that they should not buy a car from the dealership next door. The people in the mosque were a bit perplexed by this impromptu and strange sermon. According to a report in yesterday’s Al-Madinah daily, a worker in the mosque finally told the people the man was mentally ill and had a bone to pick with the car dealership next door because they have repeatedly refused to sell him a car on a payment plan. The prayer, however, still counts.
No much on that one..just make sure you took the fatwa from local sheikh permitting use of God's house as a sale spot.
Some more female deprivation for the male specie
This country male's are apparently so deprived of female shadows that you can actually make money out of them by selling pictures girls which doesnt have to be porn!!
No wonder the men in this nation grow up to be homosexuals!! Soon Saudi Arabia will be renamed to Homo Arabia and will be a land of "No Vaginas"
Beauty Parlor Owner Held for Secretly Photographing Customers
Zainy Abbas,
Source: Arab News
MAKKAH, 27 November 2006 — Police watched and then raided a salon where a 28-year-old Asian expatriate woman was arrested for secretly taking pictures of customers and then selling them to men, an official at the Passport Department in the holy city told Arab News.
Capt. Mansour Al-Otaibi, head of the Makkah regional branch of the Passport Department, said a raid last week led by Capt. Faisal Al-Suwalim resulted in the arrest of Shehnaz and the man who owned the parlor, Zainul Abideen. Police had been watching the establishment for some time.
According to authorities, Shehnaz met Zainul Abideen at a clothing shop where he was working. They struck up a conversation and eventually the woman moved in with the man and converted his home into a beauty salon. She allegedly set up a system for taking clandestine pictures of women customers. The pictures would then be sold to men in the area.
After the two were arrested, they attempted to claim they were married, but later conceded that they were not. At first, Shehnaz merely offered to cook and clean for Zainul Abideen in return for shelter. Later, the man agreed to allow the woman to establish a salon in the house. Eventually, it turned into a lucrative business. At some point, the woman decided on the photography scheme.
Shehnaz told authorities she came to Makkah on a pilgrimage visa and never returned home because she felt she could make more money in the Kingdom than in her native country.
No wonder the men in this nation grow up to be homosexuals!! Soon Saudi Arabia will be renamed to Homo Arabia and will be a land of "No Vaginas"
Beauty Parlor Owner Held for Secretly Photographing Customers
Zainy Abbas,
Source: Arab News
MAKKAH, 27 November 2006 — Police watched and then raided a salon where a 28-year-old Asian expatriate woman was arrested for secretly taking pictures of customers and then selling them to men, an official at the Passport Department in the holy city told Arab News.
Capt. Mansour Al-Otaibi, head of the Makkah regional branch of the Passport Department, said a raid last week led by Capt. Faisal Al-Suwalim resulted in the arrest of Shehnaz and the man who owned the parlor, Zainul Abideen. Police had been watching the establishment for some time.
According to authorities, Shehnaz met Zainul Abideen at a clothing shop where he was working. They struck up a conversation and eventually the woman moved in with the man and converted his home into a beauty salon. She allegedly set up a system for taking clandestine pictures of women customers. The pictures would then be sold to men in the area.
After the two were arrested, they attempted to claim they were married, but later conceded that they were not. At first, Shehnaz merely offered to cook and clean for Zainul Abideen in return for shelter. Later, the man agreed to allow the woman to establish a salon in the house. Eventually, it turned into a lucrative business. At some point, the woman decided on the photography scheme.
Shehnaz told authorities she came to Makkah on a pilgrimage visa and never returned home because she felt she could make more money in the Kingdom than in her native country.
Saturday, November 25, 2006
Why do Arabs hate Israel??
After the end of WW2, the world started to emerge as a different face. Many colonies settled by europeans were declared as countries. New borders were drawn, new countries were created and old ones abolished. Many historical country shrunk or totally dissapeared and new ones took place. The modrem world geography including all arab states, Saudi Arabia, Israel, United states, Pakistan and many others emerged from the divisions of european colonists on reasons either ethinic or religious.
One of such state of Israel, the single most hated by arabs and almost entire muslim world. Israel being the only democracy in the middle east and with no sizeable reserves of oil, it still tops as the most economically developing and fininancially stable country in the middle east. While the islamists and dictators of middle east couldnt do any better with their oil money, Israel has stood the test if time and established itself as an aggresive force. Its economic and technological developments can be an eye openers to any arab provided that they may think more than what the local mosque imam has permitted them to...
Now the arab dictators have a real threat on their thrones. They keep the factories of hatred running by any means well oiled by their petro-dollar just so that their citizens wouldnt accidently discover the fruits of democracy and tearn down the palaces of Al-Saudi decendents in anger.
Its not about Jerusulem or the Palestineans. How many arab nations would accepts palestinean mobs in their country??? none...After all arabs have the reputation of slicing each other throat off..they would they be bothered about a bunch of palestinean mobs??? Dont worry, they are the least bothered about them.. the biggest threat is to their thrones. And therefore they must keep the entire muslim on the tab to hate israel. The arab monarchs go to great extent for this. Hacking their entire education system and the Islamic religion preaching undercover in manipulative language the dangers of Israel while forgetting to point out their own imperfection, lack of human rights, abundance of corruption and a 90% mentally retarded nation which is statically a "biological waste" coming out of forced arranged marriges either inter-tribe or inter-family.
And lets not forget the women rights, a day-dream in the arab world but reality in the little jewish-state.
Lets not try to discover the Jewish state and keep hating or our women will start to march on street for driving licences.
One of such state of Israel, the single most hated by arabs and almost entire muslim world. Israel being the only democracy in the middle east and with no sizeable reserves of oil, it still tops as the most economically developing and fininancially stable country in the middle east. While the islamists and dictators of middle east couldnt do any better with their oil money, Israel has stood the test if time and established itself as an aggresive force. Its economic and technological developments can be an eye openers to any arab provided that they may think more than what the local mosque imam has permitted them to...
Now the arab dictators have a real threat on their thrones. They keep the factories of hatred running by any means well oiled by their petro-dollar just so that their citizens wouldnt accidently discover the fruits of democracy and tearn down the palaces of Al-Saudi decendents in anger.
Its not about Jerusulem or the Palestineans. How many arab nations would accepts palestinean mobs in their country??? none...After all arabs have the reputation of slicing each other throat off..they would they be bothered about a bunch of palestinean mobs??? Dont worry, they are the least bothered about them.. the biggest threat is to their thrones. And therefore they must keep the entire muslim on the tab to hate israel. The arab monarchs go to great extent for this. Hacking their entire education system and the Islamic religion preaching undercover in manipulative language the dangers of Israel while forgetting to point out their own imperfection, lack of human rights, abundance of corruption and a 90% mentally retarded nation which is statically a "biological waste" coming out of forced arranged marriges either inter-tribe or inter-family.
And lets not forget the women rights, a day-dream in the arab world but reality in the little jewish-state.
Lets not try to discover the Jewish state and keep hating or our women will start to march on street for driving licences.
Wednesday, November 22, 2006
Religious bitches whinning for veil and abaya
Dutch Have Reached a New Level of Authoritarianism
Naima Bouteldja, The Guardian
Source: ArabNews
AMSTERDAM, 22 November 2006 — The political hubbub that greeted Jack Straw’s comments on the veil seems to have inspired a new continental fashion. Latest to join the fray is the Dutch government, which in the run-up to the general election announced plans to ban the wearing of the burqa and face veil in public. By doing so, it has raised what is becoming a Europe-wide campaign to a new level of authoritarianism. Naima Azough, a Dutch Green MP, points out that the ban would apply to fewer than 100 women. “This didn’t come from public pressure,” she says, “but was initiated by the immigration minister, Rita Verdonk, whose Liberal-Conservative party is scrambling for far-right votes.” The result will simply reinforce the perception of Muslims that they will never be accepted in Dutch society.
Of course, the dress code of Muslim women was making headlines across Europe long before Straw weighed in. The wearing of the headscarf by teachers is already forbidden in schools in several German states. In Belgium, the minister-president of the Walloon-Brussels region last year authorized state schools to ban the headscarf. The result has been the creation of ghettoized schools.
In each European country, veil mania seems to follow a similar pattern: A public statement by a prominent politician results in a frenzied political and media response, conveniently diverting attention away from unpopular government policies or political crises.
France provided the political laboratory. In April 2003, the headscarf row came out of nowhere; within a year it had been outlawed in state schools. No serious demands to ban the headscarf had ever come from teaching bodies, students or the public. It simply wasn’t seen as a problem before April 2003: Of the 10 million students in French state schools, only 1,250 wore the headscarf.
So who or what sparked “l’affaire du foulard”? Françoise Lorcerie, the editor of “The Politicization of the Veil in France, Europe and the Arab World,” points the finger at France’s interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, who, in a generally well-received speech to the Union of French Muslim Organizations in April 2003, sparked uproar in the hall when he reminded the audience that wearing the headscarf on national ID card photos was “unlawful”.
Responding to a climate of his government’s own making, President Chirac set up the powerful Stasi commission, named after its Catholic chair, to investigate “how secularism could be enforced in the republic”. MPs of all parties kept up the pressure, introducing parliamentary bills to ban the headscarf. Public opinion then turned, from being almost evenly divided at the start of the campaign to 76 percent in favor of a ban within a year. Partly as a result of this extraordinary diversion, the Raffarin government was able to face down large-scale public opposition to pension reform.
For Pierre Tévanian, the author of “Le Voile Médiatique,” the headscarf “unveiled another genuine problem”, later confirmed by last November’s social explosion in the French suburbs: “An ingrained postcolonial racism that crosses all social divides and political formations, even the most progressive.” Most alarmingly, the veil and headscarf debate intertwined seamlessly with issues of law and order, women’s oppression and international terrorism.
The Dutch government’s proposed ban on both niqab and burqa in all public spaces takes things to a new and disturbing level. The implication is clear: Niqab or hijab-wearing women, and through them European Muslims, are being asked to submit not to the law of the land, but to each country’s dominant way of life.
The more governments and media foment hysteria over headscarves and niqabs, the more it seems a pan-European Islamophobic consensus is being built, as politicians search for scapegoats for social problems and pretexts to legislate in the “war on terror”.
— Naima Bouteldja, a French journalist, is a researcher for the Transnational Institute.
The point is, to be able to integrate in some society, you have to be one like them. I mean comeon you migrated their out of your own free will so you knews their rules and regulation were coming which must be obeyed.
And this veil and abaya movement among muslims isn't that innocent either. How many girls do actually cover because of the fear of elders and parents instead of religion???? And then you have the nasty Turks and Paki's honour killing their daughters our scarves.. Its a good thing to be banned.. no scarves no problems..The terrorist women hiding bombs in their abayas and riding trains..These are symbols of wahabism and rape away from women their self confidence and right of representation. If you are so concerned about morals and provocation then you can simply choose to dress right and now just hide under a ventilation less tent with a sneak peak for vision.
When Saudi's advertise their campaign of naturalization for the long time residents of the Kingdom, they sure put in a lot of ridiculous demand to applicats including full knowledge of all stupid cultures and moral codes prevailing in Saudi Arabia, stupid local Arabic dialects and dynasty of wahabism. So be thankful that the Germans aren't being the Saudi's and be thanful that they reward you with naturalization and human rights instead of leaving you stranded like the magic kingdom..
Naima Bouteldja, The Guardian
Source: ArabNews
AMSTERDAM, 22 November 2006 — The political hubbub that greeted Jack Straw’s comments on the veil seems to have inspired a new continental fashion. Latest to join the fray is the Dutch government, which in the run-up to the general election announced plans to ban the wearing of the burqa and face veil in public. By doing so, it has raised what is becoming a Europe-wide campaign to a new level of authoritarianism. Naima Azough, a Dutch Green MP, points out that the ban would apply to fewer than 100 women. “This didn’t come from public pressure,” she says, “but was initiated by the immigration minister, Rita Verdonk, whose Liberal-Conservative party is scrambling for far-right votes.” The result will simply reinforce the perception of Muslims that they will never be accepted in Dutch society.
Of course, the dress code of Muslim women was making headlines across Europe long before Straw weighed in. The wearing of the headscarf by teachers is already forbidden in schools in several German states. In Belgium, the minister-president of the Walloon-Brussels region last year authorized state schools to ban the headscarf. The result has been the creation of ghettoized schools.
In each European country, veil mania seems to follow a similar pattern: A public statement by a prominent politician results in a frenzied political and media response, conveniently diverting attention away from unpopular government policies or political crises.
France provided the political laboratory. In April 2003, the headscarf row came out of nowhere; within a year it had been outlawed in state schools. No serious demands to ban the headscarf had ever come from teaching bodies, students or the public. It simply wasn’t seen as a problem before April 2003: Of the 10 million students in French state schools, only 1,250 wore the headscarf.
So who or what sparked “l’affaire du foulard”? Françoise Lorcerie, the editor of “The Politicization of the Veil in France, Europe and the Arab World,” points the finger at France’s interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, who, in a generally well-received speech to the Union of French Muslim Organizations in April 2003, sparked uproar in the hall when he reminded the audience that wearing the headscarf on national ID card photos was “unlawful”.
Responding to a climate of his government’s own making, President Chirac set up the powerful Stasi commission, named after its Catholic chair, to investigate “how secularism could be enforced in the republic”. MPs of all parties kept up the pressure, introducing parliamentary bills to ban the headscarf. Public opinion then turned, from being almost evenly divided at the start of the campaign to 76 percent in favor of a ban within a year. Partly as a result of this extraordinary diversion, the Raffarin government was able to face down large-scale public opposition to pension reform.
For Pierre Tévanian, the author of “Le Voile Médiatique,” the headscarf “unveiled another genuine problem”, later confirmed by last November’s social explosion in the French suburbs: “An ingrained postcolonial racism that crosses all social divides and political formations, even the most progressive.” Most alarmingly, the veil and headscarf debate intertwined seamlessly with issues of law and order, women’s oppression and international terrorism.
The Dutch government’s proposed ban on both niqab and burqa in all public spaces takes things to a new and disturbing level. The implication is clear: Niqab or hijab-wearing women, and through them European Muslims, are being asked to submit not to the law of the land, but to each country’s dominant way of life.
The more governments and media foment hysteria over headscarves and niqabs, the more it seems a pan-European Islamophobic consensus is being built, as politicians search for scapegoats for social problems and pretexts to legislate in the “war on terror”.
— Naima Bouteldja, a French journalist, is a researcher for the Transnational Institute.
The point is, to be able to integrate in some society, you have to be one like them. I mean comeon you migrated their out of your own free will so you knews their rules and regulation were coming which must be obeyed.
And this veil and abaya movement among muslims isn't that innocent either. How many girls do actually cover because of the fear of elders and parents instead of religion???? And then you have the nasty Turks and Paki's honour killing their daughters our scarves.. Its a good thing to be banned.. no scarves no problems..The terrorist women hiding bombs in their abayas and riding trains..These are symbols of wahabism and rape away from women their self confidence and right of representation. If you are so concerned about morals and provocation then you can simply choose to dress right and now just hide under a ventilation less tent with a sneak peak for vision.
When Saudi's advertise their campaign of naturalization for the long time residents of the Kingdom, they sure put in a lot of ridiculous demand to applicats including full knowledge of all stupid cultures and moral codes prevailing in Saudi Arabia, stupid local Arabic dialects and dynasty of wahabism. So be thankful that the Germans aren't being the Saudi's and be thanful that they reward you with naturalization and human rights instead of leaving you stranded like the magic kingdom..
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